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We added a new review section, coincidentally another Mayhem reference following 'The Past is Alive', with the title 'Buried by Time and Dust'. Over the years, a lot of promos have been gathering dust simply because a fresh wave of promos arrived the following month and they were consigned to oblivion. We will review them here to make a clear distinction with our other reviews. We will also use it to complete a discography in terms of reviews. Feel free to contact us if you would like to submit your music or would like to join the staff.

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Old Funeral – “Old Funeral was one of the few bands that actually meant something.”

Every now and then some new Old Funeral vinyls show up in very limited quantities. Not that long ago the “Grim reaping Norway” vinyl was re-released again on picture vinyl and because of that the interest in Old Funeral again grew once more.  Last time I spoke to Tore Bratseth, guitars in Old Funeral, was on the phone about two weeks ago and he told me about more upcoming Old Funeral collector items so with these in sight I think the popularity will grow even more again after years of silence. Reason enough for me to ask Tore some questions about the past and present of Old Funeral and other related bands in which Tore plays or had played in. As the complete history is covered in this interview as well I think the newer Old Funeral fans, whom where not there in the times when Old Funeral was active, now have the chance to find out about the true history of these Norwegian West-coast Death Metal pioneers. Enjoy reading this lengthy interview. Thanks alot to Tore for taking the time to answer this interview even though the band was not active for about 12 years now. ALLRIGHT, the beers are waiting for us!!!

ALLRIGHT!!!! Tore, how are you doing now, it has been a while already?
AALLRIIIIIGHT! I am doing great and it ain’t too late, jailbait baby come on!

Let’s go back in time a bit. When and why came the idea to start Old Funeral and who was in the band in the very first beginning? And what were your musical influences when starting Old Funeral? You were all very young when starting up Old Funeral, if I’m correct you were only 15 years old when starting up Old Funeral right? And how did you became interested in the fantastic world of Heavy Metal?
We wanted to thrash basically. It was me and Padden and Olve who started it. Same line-up as the “Abduction of Limbs” demo. Yeah, we were 15 and Padden was 18. Musical influences were the traditional heavy metal + thrash death bands from the 80’s like Sodom, Slayer, Destruction, Iron Maiden, Celtic Frost, The Mentors etc etc. My father was an old rocker and still is and he had lots of Black Sabbath Motorhead Zeppelin records we stole and borrowed and listened to. I kind of got it through my mothers beer.

In 1990 you released a demo called “Abduction of limbs”. How were the reactions to that demo in those days and were there labels interested in signing Old Funeral because of that demo? And how do you look back on that demo nowadays?
The reactions were fabulous. Hardly a bad review at all. We got no less than 11 offers for a record contract. Most of them unserious ofcourse but still good to be recognized. I still find the demo the some of the most interesting and original stuff we did, although I dig some tracks from our last recording session in 1992.

“Abduction of limbs” was the very first recording at the Grieghallen Studios if I’m correct so how did you ended up recording there? We all know Grieghallen became a very big studio in Norway and most of the prominent Black Metal bands recorded their albums there but what made this studio so special?
My father went to school with Pytten the producer and he recommended him to us. It’s not just the studio that is special. Pytten is a great man to work and party with. Very easy going but also dead serious. He is an old rocker who knows how the “feel” should be.

In ’91 Thrash records released the “Devoured carcass” 7″EP which has become a huge collectors item nowadays. How did you came in contact with them and how was it to have the very first official label release out? How many copies have been made of that EP?
We sent them a demo and they got an erection. 1100 copies were pressed. I remember the day we got our 200 copies in the mail. It was the best day of my life. Releasing something on vinyl was not as easy back then as it is now you know.

Before the recordings of “Devoured carcass” Olve left the band to start Immortal. Was it difficult at that time to find new members and how was it to be in the band without your best friend anymore? And did the fact that Olve left Old Funeral had consequences for the musical direction you’re going to?
We became a darker band after Olve quit. Although he was not in the band anymore, we have always remained the best of friends and we started Bombers together in 1996 and were still going. It was not very difficult to find a new guy. The difficult part was to teach him the songs as he hadn’t played with any bands before. It’s one thing to play for yourself, but another thing to get the tightness of a band.

Thorlak and C.Vikernes joined Old Funeral around that same period. Did their entrance to Old Funeral bring some new influences to the bands musical direction? And how did you came in contact with them?
They were just guys that hung around the same places as we did and shared the same musical taste. Thorlak was a big Old Funeral fan when he joined. The music became more Death Metal oriented.

Did you played many gigs in those early years and how were the reaction to those gigs as Old Funeral was one of the first extreme metal bands in Norway? And how popular has Old funeral become withen the metal scene at that time? How was the underground scene in Norway back then with great bands like Thou Shalt Suffer, Cadaver, Mayhem and Amputation?
We played around 25-30 gigs with Old Funeral. Reactions were very varied as some of the gigs were played together with other non-metal bands and lots of people had never heard anything like this before. It was great to see stupid people don’t know how to react. Some were shocked, some passed us out as noise, others thought we were great! We were definately the hardest fucking kids in town!

After the “Devoured carcass” EP Vikernes left the band to start his own band Burzum and Jørn Inge took over the guitar. I have the idea that with the arrival of Jørn Inge the Black Metal influences became a little bit more noticable in the music, do you agree? He also wrote “Alone walking” which later ended up on the demo from Hades, the band Jørn formed after leaving Old Funeral and Immortal. Was that also the musical direction Old Funeral was heading for, I mean the more epic side of Black Metal?
Old Funeral became a darker and darker band as time passed. We went out in the forest in the middle of the night and wrote lyrics and had long discussions of how much we hated the world. Quite a misanthropic band we were. Inspiration came easier to our minds at night. I am still quite misanthropic today as I find 98 percent of the worlds population to be bloody hilarious. My friends are the alot of the same today as they were 16-17 years ago. But today I don’t spend time disliking people or the world in general. I am too busy enjoying myself as my life is fucking good at the moment.

With that last line-up which was you on guitar, Jørn Inge on guitar, Thorlak on bass and Padden on drums and vocals, you also recorded a full-length album which has never been released. Why wasn’t it released back then? And why isn’t it released nowadays as there are still Old Funeral albums being released eventhough the band is non-active for 12 years now? I know for sure plenty of labels are interested in releasing that album nowadays!
4 of the tracks are on the “The Older Ones” LP. The others will remain underground. We didn’t release it because we felt it was unfinished and that it was not right to release it since the band split up.

Also in ’92 you guys decided to quit with Old Funeral. Why, because I think Old Funeral definately had the potential to become huge? And did you ever regret quiting Old Funeral?
I did not quit Old Funeral. We just put it to rest and we never started it up again. We also had some musical differences. If Old Funeral would have been huge? I don’t know, but we definitely seem bigger today than when we quit 12 years ago!!

After the Old Funeral era all members became active in other bands which all have become huge over the years and because of that metalheads whom are new in the scene became interested in Old Funeral as well. Because of that Hammerheart released a great looking piece of picture vinyl including both the demo and EP to show the new fans what Old Funeral was all about. Did you immediately agreed with releasing that picture disc and what do you think of the final result? And what do you think of the fact that people became interested in Old Funeral only because of some “famous” musicians once started in Old Funeral?
I have always been a huge record collector, and all I wanted was to see and hear our music on vinyl. I think the result of the Hammerheart picture disc is great except that they wrote it was a 10 inch instead of a 12 inch. I like that it’s done in black and white. It looks older that way. I find it totally understandable that people are interested in Old Funeral because of Immortal, Burzum etc. I am a big Motorhead fan and I collect all the pre-Motorhead recordings Lemmy played on. I got the first 7″ he was on with Rocking Vickers from 1966! So, as a fan of music myself I understand. But we sold 1100 copies of the “Devoured Carcass” EP in 3 weeks when it came out, so we could not have been that bad…..

About a year later, we talk about 1998, a full-length was released called “The older ones”. Again Hammerheart was the one releasing it so who’s idea was it to release this album? Was the demand for Old Funeral that huge back then eventhough you quited six years sooner?
It was a joint decision. I was sick and tired of taping our old demos for people and Hammerheart wanted to make some money. So I thought it was a good idea to release our stuff. So did Hammerheart.

Now there is also a vinyl called “Grim reaping Norway” on the market in both a limited regular vinyl version and a even more limited picture disc version including two gigs. What I’ve noticed was that both you and Vikernes used corpse paint on those pictures. Why did you used it back then as it was not common for Death Metal bands to use it back then?
We used it because it looked ugly. If you look closely I wear zombie paint, not corpse paint. I just wanted to look as disgusting and rotten as possible. To me it had no deeper feeling than that. I cannot speak for Mr. Vikernes…

On the phone you also told me about a new upcoming release. What can you tell about it, which songs, which format, which label, the release date etc.?
I cannot tell you anything about this release, because then it will just be rumours and talk about it. I will suddenly appear in very limited vinyl pressing only. All I can say is that it is early Old Funeral recordings from 1989 and none of the tracks have been released before.

How do you look back now on that whole Old Funeral era and are you proud of what you’ve achieved with Old Funeral?
Old Funeral was one of the few bands that actually meant something. I am proud of it indeed. On my 30th birthday we had a reunion gig in front of 120 people (only invited). The first original line up. We all agreed that we will do it again on my 40th, 50th 60th etc..birthday. Old Funeral will resurrect as a ghost every 10th year until one of us dies.

Some years later after the split of Old Funeral you’ve started up Desekrator. What can you tell about that band and who was in it?
He-he. All of Bergen was involved in that group. It was a core of me, Infernus and Tormentor from Gorgoroth + tons of guests including Ivar and Grutle from Enslaved and Pytten himself in the studio. It was the worst band in the world and was bound to die. But what a great band!

You have released your debut album “Metal for demons” through Hammerheart and I haven’t seen one single positive review about that album haha. Am I the only one who thinks this album is good hehe? What do you think of all those bad reviews? As you know, I still gonna do that cover with my band and now I remember that time in Bergen a few years ago when we completely drunk were singing the “Texas Joe” song hahaha. Good old memories ALLRIGHT!!!
He he. allright! I am really happy that it didn’t get one single good review. That was exactly the point. We raped what had anything to do with music. One magazine got the idea though, but couldn’t figure out wether to give us the highest or lowest points. Texas Joe will never fail! Hold your horses boy!

There is a rumour that most of the money you’ve received from the label for covering the recording costs is used to get drunk at the local pub. What is true about this hehe?
He-he. We got drunk as fuck allright! I don’t know where the money came from, but we were pissed most of the time. The club Garage is dangerously close to the studio you know + Infernus brought lots of Vodka and whiskey to the studio.

What were the influences to record this record (alcohol perhaps hehe)? It is also remarkable that almost all songs have a completely different sound and production so how many studio visits were necessary to complete the whole album? And what were the lyrical influences for the album (maybe alcohol again hehe)?
Alchohol was the main influence yes. It was pure spontanious all the time. Where other bands use maybe 4 out of 100 ideas we used 120 out of a 100.

Eventhough all bad critics you’ve had the opportunity to record some more songs for a three picture 7″EP box to be released some time later. Why gave Hammerheart you this chance to record some more eventhough it was almost certain that it wouldn’t sell at all? Was it blind faith in Desekrator?
It was a part of the deal . The 500 copies of the set sold out quite fast anyway so Hammerheart didn’t loose any money, but they blamed us for desecrating their record label he-he.

I have to say the Desekrator logo is one of the best looking logos ever made in the history of metal. Who came up with this? And how do you came with the name Ali Gator haha?
Alligator is a very dangerous animal and so am I. I think the logo was made by Jannicke Wiese Hansen. The same woman that made the first Burzum cover and the first Immortal logo. She is a tatooist and has even tatooed Tommy Lee from Motley Crue. Tommy Lee and Desekrator share the same artist!! The idea was Infernus and Tormentors’.

And there is also a story behind the cover of “Metal for demons” you told me a couple of years ago. It was at Norways national day that you guys climbed the vikingship to do a photo shoot. I think the tourists must have looked very silly to you while doing this photo shoot having bullet belts around the head hahaha?
Ha-ha. Some guy who arranged some stupid National day procession told us to get the hell out of there and we had to promise that the pictures were never gonna be used for commercial purposes. We lied of course and got the greatest cover in history he-he. We hired a very expensive professional photographer and he said it was the funniest work he’d ever done.

The last time I visited you in Bergen you also told me about a Desekrator recording which isn’t released up to date. Will it ever see the day of light or is it meant to stay in the deepest depths of the underground?
They are in the deepest abyss of the underground. I have asked the other guys about them, but they say it should stay obscure. I kind of agree.

You also showed me your huge collection of vinyls when I visited you and it looks like you’re spending all your money on vinyls. Where came this fascination for collecting vinyls come from as it is one of the biggest and most varied collections I have ever seen? And what are your most favourite vinyls in your collection (maybe that lp from that Norwegian mental hospital patient you’ve played me hehe. “I’m in the fieldssssssssssssssssaah” hahaha. That was insane haha. Actually I can’t remember the name of that artist anymore although I know for sure he is a complete fruitcake hehe?!)?
You are referring to a man called Arvid Sletta. He is in a mental hospital and will never be out. I feel that vinyl have more of a personality than cd’s. Biggers covers, gatefold, better sounding and you have to treat them well which makes them close to your heart. My father is a record collector and has been since the 60’s and I guess I got facinated by the records from a very early age. I spend quite a lot of cash on records yes. My most cherished records are many. My 5 Twisted Sister platinum awards disc. My signed original Posercorpse “Deathcrush”, the first Burzum with handwritten lyrics. A gold award presentation with 8 Elvis Presley gold discs with original Elvis tickets. The signed test pressing of the first Immortal record (only 5 were made and only mine is signed). Blood fire death signed by Quorthon. The first recording with Lemmy on vinyl. The first Bon Scott single. The first Twisted Sister single signed by Dee Snider to me. Some very rare Thailand pressed Black Sabbath singles, the first Ramones single .The first Motley Crue single signed by Tommy Lee. Original first Transilvanian Hunger by Darkthrone oh, I could go on forever….

A band in which you’re still active is Bömbers, a Möterhead tribute band. What can you tell about this band and can you also introduce the complete line-up?
Bombers is a Motorhead tribute band which consists of me, Abbath (Olve) and an old friend of ours called Pez. He looks exactly like Philty Animal Taylor on drums. Olve is Lemmy and I’m Fast Eddie Clarke. We play old Motorhead classics in a bad ass shit kicking old school way. If you wanna book us, just contact me and we will tear your place apart. We are all old Motorhead fans since the late 70’s and we’re dirty as fuck!

Nicola showed me a videotape of one of your gigs in Bergen and the complete audience went crazy. It seems like Bömbers is a band that really knows how to start a party. What are the craziest things you have experienced with the Bömbers? You also told me once you played the afterparty for a Mötorhead gig and Lemmy himself was watching the gig. How was it to be on stage while Lemmy was watching?
The craziest thing that happened was that we scared Phil Campell (the guitarist in Motorhead) out of our backstage in 1997 after the gig we held at Garage when all the members of Motorhead came to see us after their own gig here in Bergen. He came backstage with us, and all we could say was AAAAALLLRRRRRIIIGGHHTT!! all the fucking time. He went: “these guys are K..KK..KgGGCraizzy!” He tried to stay with us for some beers but we outpartied him! I have it all on video. It’s the greatest video ever! It’s great to be on stage when Lemmy is watching because then you know you have a person in the audience who understands rock n roll. Very few people UNDERSTANDS rock n roll. He does. A great man he is too.

And how is it to be on stage again with your old time friend Olve? Does that bring back memories from the early Old Funeral era?
Not really memories, but I feel the bond of neverbreaking brotherhood. I love the man. One of the few genuine rock n rollers I know. He knows about metal and rock and knows about partying. A lifelong friend.

Besides Bömbers you’ve also done some guestvocals for Radek’s band Amok on the “Lava dictatorship” demo and you even have done a gig with them at the Hole in the Sky Festival some years ago. How did the cooperation with Amok started and can we expect something like that in the future as well?
I got to know Radek ’cause he used to play with my grilfriend Morrigan in Aeternus and he asked me to do guest vocals on a cover they were doing. It was “Bodies” by the Sex Pistols. I changed the lyrics to my convenience and off we thrashed! If they ask me again I’ll be there.

ALLRIGHT Tore, this was my lengthy interview. Take some Hansa bottles while answering ALLRIGHT! It will always help to get in the right mood. Thanks alot for doing this interview ALLRIGHT! And maybe we meet again in Bergen next year for some more drinking sessions while screaming our lungs out while singing “Texas Joe” and “Bergen Belzen Svinepelzen” hahahaha. ALLRIGHT, thanks alot! ALLRIGHT, the last words are completely yours Tore!!!
You’re welcome mate. I’m always ready for beer and vinyls and shouting. All right! ALL RIGHT! Leather, denim, patches, long hair and studs!

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  • Bands: 1349
  • Review Date: March 29, 2004
  • Authors: MarcelB

1349 – “We were aware of the fact that we’d be looked upon as Frost’s side project…”

1349 is one of those bands who are surrounded by a lot of mystery ever since they started out. I was quite impressed with the self-titled mini-album, which in fact was the demo pressed on CD, and I was even more impressed with the fantastic ‘Liberation’ album, which was one of the highlights in Black Metal at the time it was released. I already had the opportunity to see 1349 perform live in Norway a couple of times and especially the Inferno gig 2003 was a show never been seen by a Black Metal band so far. Because next month already a new album will see the light of day, it was time for me to find out what’s going on in the 1349 camp. Seidemann (bass) was the one answering my questions.

Greetings, how are things going now for 1349?
Greetings! Things are well with 1349. Our next album, ‘Beyond the Apocalypse’, will be released on the 19th of April.

Why did you choose 1349 as a band name? Has it got something to do with the largest Black Plague epidemic in Europe, which was in the year 1349?
1349 was indeed the year the Black Death struck Norway, killing 2/3 of the population and ending the Norwegian golden age.

Let’s go back in time a bit. The first official 1349 release was the ‘1349’ mini album. What can you tell about that one? It was released on a very small underground label, how did the contact come and were they the only ones interested in 1349 back then?
The MCD was a demo, and although we were satisfied with the material back then, it isn’t representative for 1349. Frost was just a session member, and all the riffs from that time have been scrapped.
Back in 2000, Holycaust was the first label that wanted to release anything by us, but they weren’t able to give us the support and publicity we felt ‘Liberation’ deserved.

Because Frost was a session drummer at that time, I think that gave the band a lot more publicity than having another drummer who didn’t have that kind of a ‘big’ name. How do you look upon that and did it bother you that a lot of journalists saw you as just another side project from Frost?
We were aware of the fact that we’d be looked upon as Frost’s side project, but then again no other drummer could have done the drums we want.
It gave us a lot more attention and publicity back then, although I guess by now people have understood that we are a band, not a side project.

Last year you released the fantastic album ‘Liberation’, which is praised in almost all magazines. How do you look back to that particular album now, still satisfied with it?
I am completely satisfied with ‘Liberation’, and even more satisfied with our latest effort.

And what does the name Liberation mean to you? Is there some deeper meaning behind it?
‘Liberation’ was a title chosen to make people think, to make up their own meaning behind it. I will therefore not give my own personal interpretation.

Right before the release of ‘Liberation’, Frost joined 1349 as a steady band member. What made him decide to join and does he have enough time for 1349 as Satyricon is still his main band?
He wasn’t very impressed with the MCD material, but when he heard the material for ‘Liberation’ he was extremely impressed and wanted to join. This was actually back in 2000 or 2001. He was a permanent member when we recorded ‘Liberation’ back in 2001.

I have seen you live in Norway a couple of times already and especially the last Inferno gig was a killer with all the pyrotechnics and fireworks and fantastic light show. I guess it costs extremely much, especially in a country like Norway, so how was this show financed? Was the gig sponsored by anyone because I guess it is quite hard to finance such a gig all by yourself?
We financed the Inferno gig ourselves, although we got some cash to play there.

And what did you think of the Inferno gig yourself? To me it was one of the highlights of Inferno 2003!
We had some sound problems, and Frost had broken a bone in his foot, but all in all I feel it went well.

In the not so distant future the new album ‘Beyond the Apocalypse’ will be released. What can you tell about the album and will there be many differences in comparison to ‘Liberation’? Is there a lot of pressure on your shoulders to come up with an even better album than ‘Liberation’?
‘Beyond the Apocalypse’ will be a step forwards towards completing our music into audible hellfire! It is just as grim, dark and insanely fast as ‘Liberation’, yet more complex and the sound is better, though still very 1349.

To me it sounds that 1349 already found their own unique style of Black Metal, even though you’ve only released one mini album and one full-length, what do you think of this? And is it important to be original and unique within the ever-growing scene of Black Metal?
Actually, 1349 has a very clear vision of how we want our music to be, and we care little for what others do. I believe that this individualism and disciplined approach gives us a sound of our own.

Last year 1349 did a small European tour with Aeternus and Red Harvest. How was that tour for you and do you have any special memories towards that tour?
It was a great tour, although a little short. The audiences were very good all over. I remember people in Paris fighting in front of the stage, pretty wild, and quite fun too.

Because Frost had to play with Satyricon in Greece, the last two gigs of the tour had to be done without 1349, which means the Dutch fans didn’t have the opportunity to witness 1349 live. Are there plans to come back over here and unleash your powerful Black Metal upon the Dutch stages? And what other live activities have been confirmed already?
We will go touring again this fall and I’m pretty sure we’ll go to Holland this year.

What about 1349 side projects? I know Dag Olav from Vesen has got a project going on with one of you guys. Can you tell a bit more about those projects?
I believe Dag Olav played drums in a band with Archaon, although I know nothing of this project. Archaon also plays guitars in the legendary Doom band Funeral, and Tjalve has a band called Pantheon I. I play session bass in different acts.

Back to 1349 now. What are the lyrics about and are they important within 1349?
The lyrics deal with death, darkness, chaos and the dark side of things. Most lyrics written by Ravn and myself are written as visualisations of the mood or feel of the song and are an important part of the song.

What do you think of the fact that a lot of fans out there already label 1349 as a cult act within Black Metal? Do you see yourself as a cult act?
I see 1349 as a Black Metal band, playing Black Metal the 1349 way.

What were your influences to start 1349 both musically and lyrically? And in what bands have you guys played before starting 1349?
Musically we’ve always listened to Venom, Celtic Frost, Bathory, Burzum, Darkthrone, etc.
Lyrically I’ve personally been inspired a lot by Poe and Lovecraft, chaos magic, philosophy and life.
Ravn and I played in a band called Hqfdingi Myrkra back in 1994, and Ravn and Tjalve played in a band called Alvheim back in 1996, none of these bands released anything.

What are the five albums you listen to most lately, and why these albums?
Carpathian Forest – Black Shining Leather
Keep of Kalessin – Reclaim
Furze – Necromanzee Cogent
Furze – Trident Autocrat
Burzum – Burzum
I listen to these albums because they are in my car, and that’s about the only place I’ve got time to listen to CDs these days.

What else can we expect in the near future besides the new album?
Expect some live performances, and we’ll probably start writing the next album soon.

Well, thanks a lot for the interview. Anything which we’ve forgotten to mention? If not, the last words are yours!
Hell awaits, beyond the apocalypse!

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Eljudner – “Eljudner is and will hopefully forever be my main priority.”

Eljudner is a Folk influenced Black Metal band hailing from Norway. Last year they released their ‘Promo 2003’ which gained good critics among press and fans. Time for me to have a talk with Rhafnhugr, guitarist in Eljudner, to introduce his band to a wider audience.

Greetings Rhafnhugr, how are you doing?
Not too bad….

First of all can you explain the meaning of the word Eljudner? If I’m correct it is a kind of Goddess right?
Hel is the northern death goddess and Eljudner is her mighty hall. If you die of sickness or old age you’ll end you days here…

And can you also tell the history of Eljudner because you’re still a quit unknown band to the world? Can you also introduce all members to us?
Eljudner hails from Lillehammer, Norway and was formed during the hot summer of 2003 by me and Vanir. So far we have only released a 3 track promo and the line up for that recording is : Rhafnhugr – guitars, Vanir – vocals, Skogskjelv – bass and Arnis –drums. Arnis has now been replaced by Hadron.


At www.eljudner.com there is a free download from the Promo 2003. Isn’t the promo released as a regular cd? And if yes, in which quantities and what else can you tell about that particular promo, like the songs, the recordingstudio/producer etc.?
The promo was released in just 30 or so copies which we sent to various record companies, webzines and some selected people in order to get some feedback. We have stopped spreading it, because we do not feel that it represents the band musically anymore. We still like the songs, but they are almost a year old, and we are more eager to get some of our newer material released to the public instead… The promo is 100% homemade without any budget and with minimal technical knowledge from our side. Still it turned out ok, I think.

Is there already some interest from labels because of that promo? And how have the reactions been so far from both press and music fans?
We haven’t gotten any offers from labels yet, but there has been a lot of great response from both fans and webzines worldwide.

How would you describe Eljudner musically and what bands have been of an influence to start Eljudner?
Eljudner plays Folk influenced Black Metal. We have taken inspiration from some of the early 1990 bands such as Aeternus, Hades Almighty, Burzum among others. We are also influenced a great deal by our Norwegian Folk music heritage and of course our nation’s past history.

Who’s responsible for the lyrics and what are they about? What inspires you most to write lyrics like these? And will you use Norwegian lyrics only?
The main lyric writer in the band is Vanir, but we also have a guy called Crenom, who has helped us with some lyrics in the past. The lyrics deals mainly with the dark spectres of Nordic mythology. No thing is ever certain, but I think we will continue to use Norwegian lyrics in the future also, it suits the music well.

I have to say the cover and logo look very great from the Promo 2003 so who was responsable for the cover and logo?
The cover is just a photo I took travelling to Glittertind (one of Norway’s highest mountains) the last summer. The logo is created by Crenom who is also responsible for the artwork to our forthcoming vinyl release.

There was no info about gigs on your webpage so what’s happening with this…do you play live often or is Eljudner a band which doesn’t want to play live at all?
We would love to play live, but we don’t have a steady rehearsal place right now, so it will have to wait…

There was some talk of doing a 12vinyl so what’s up with that? Which label will it be and what can be found on this piece of vinyl?
It will feature two new songs. we are currently trying to find a suitable studio for recording the drums and vocals. Bass and guitars we will do ourselves at our home studio. We are searching for a label, but if no one cares to help us out we will most likely release it ourselves..

What do you prefer; vinyl or cd and why?
Vinyl looks better, but cd’s are more practical. I collect vinyl from certain favourite bands, but I have no urge to get “everything” available on vinyl.

Does any of you have any side projects or other bands going on as well and if yes; which ones? Or are all members dedicated to Eljudner only?
Eljudner is and will hopefully forever be my main priority. I don’t play in any other bands right now. Skogskjelv plays in Styggmyr (ultra-primitive Black Metal) and Vino Lord (some sort of stoner metal). Vanir has some obscure old school Black Metal creation called Kommand going on, but he has not released anything yet.

What else can we expect in the near future from Eljudner?
Hopefully we’ll get to release the 12” before the end of summer…. Check out our homepage http://www.eljudner.com/ for further notices…

Thanks for the interview and if I missed anything this is your chance to say it so…as usual…the last words are yours?
Well, thank you very much for your support of Eljudner. Stay grim.

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Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult – “”Nocturnal March” is the invisible force which manifests in order to break the very last human resistance!”

After reviewing Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult’s second effort “Follow The Calls For Battle” I got an e-mail from the band, some contacts ran over and over, and this resulted to this interview. We are proud to be one of those chosen few who actually had the honour to interview this great band. Which is definitely one of the most intense and best blackmetal bands to hail from the Germaniac country, and they on their way to become one of the leaders of the European blackmetal scene. All hail for the Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult… 

Hail! So, how are you these days?
Oh well, making the best out of the daily hell called life.

Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult has been quite busy lately. Give us an update!
After taking some time off during 2003 we’ve returned with new strength and vigour. The latest release in form of a split LP with Luxembourg’s Donkelheet has been unleashed several blasphemous months ago. Once more unchained by Black Blood Prod. limited to 666 bestial copies. A venture into dark depressive solitude. Currently we’re working on the last final touches of the all new third devastating slaughtering opus. Hopefully, after having to postpone the release date due to time conflicts – the next infernal chapter will be ready in some weeks. Furthermore we agreed upon playing more bloodstained live battles. The slaughter will continue…

The full-length album you put out half 2003 was quite a success. The vinyl version was already sold-out in a few weeks. What do you think is the reason for your sudden popularity?
First of all,… merely the gatefold version and later on the tape version was released in 2003. The actual album itself was released back in 2001 ! Originally in form of a self financed as well as self produced CD – just like “The Pest…” in 1999. Furthermore, you should not speak of sudden popularity. Afterall, by now we have been on a “crusade” for seven unholy years !!! Most important to us, we’ve reached our current status due to our own strength and will power. Co-operating with labels – as in releasing vinyl versions – certainly helped. Bottomline is that Slaughtercult stands independent literally upon it’s own cloven-hoofed feet.

How were the overall reactions on “Follow The Calls For Battle”?
Throughout the world wide black metal “scene” “Follow…” has spread like a virulent fungus. Thus we have received praising comments from every continent. As “The Pest…” placed the foundation stone in 1999 some individuals already were aware of us. Nowadays there are not many hordes which survive the first release. “Follow…” proved that Slaughtercult has carved the conspiracy for raw Black Metal deeply into its blackened heart. It was flattering, but not surprisingly to all of a sudden receive close to two dozen contract offers. Furthermore there has been a constant demand for live battles…having insight on this broad overview you can judge yourself how the reactions have been.

The new split LP with Donkelheet has just been released. The release has been postponed due to something with the wrong sleeves, right?
Has there ever been a Slaughtercult release on time ? Is there really a dead line ? There was nothing wrong with the fucking sleeves. Donkelheet decided to change their cover in the very last fucking moment. Ofcorpse this delayed the release a bit. The manufacturing plant caused some minor problems as well. Thanks to Black Blood’s dedicated work everything has turned out 100% to our liking. Mighty hails to this superior Italian label !!!

It has been released now in the right form. Did you already got some feedback on the split LP?
The feedback has been excellent so far. Although the track itself is a bit more monotonous and more primitive than for example “Follow” material, it contains the Slaughtercult spirit nevertheless. Some call it our best track so far as it captures more atmosphere than the previous hymns. In combination with Donkelheet’s track “Emptyness” – “Underneath Stars of the East” unites to quiet a powerful old school atmospheric black metal release. That’s exactly what we have received as feedback.

In what does the last recordings (from the split LP) differ from the full-length?
The difference between the 2nd chapter “Follow…” and the split track “Underneath…” ? Well, the album is a straight forward all guns blazing black metal assault. The split LP is based upon a more depressive approach. One rules with iron fist. The other convinces and overwhelms by sheer atmosphere.

What will the next release be? And when can we expect it?
Within our saldorian stronghold echoes the sound of steel. Smoke ascends from the forges as fires burn day and night ! Slaughtercult gathers its’ armies once again. Currently we are adding final touches to the third all new chapter. “The Pest…” was the calm before the storm. “Follow…” showed our glorious presence upon the battlefield. “Nocturnal March” is the invisible force which manifests in order to break the very last human resistance !

All of your releases have been released on vinyl as well. How important are LPs for you?
CD, tape … vinyl nothing but different types of sound carriers. Not the sound carrier is important – what lies embedded upon it truly matters ! Some call a tape or vinyl more underground than CD releases. Those are exactly the same people who think rehearsal room recordings with absofuckinglutely pathetic sound quality are in the one and only true vein of early black metal ! Fuck that ! A lousy horde which spawns a huge pile of musical excrements will not overcome their shitty status … not by releasing a CD, tape or vinyl ! One can try to polish shit … it will only disgustingly smell more and more. Thus, vinyl holds the same importance as tapes and compact discs do.

The lyrics have not a real satanic approach, unlike many other bands, but more a dark and mystical intent. What is the reason for these topics?
Slaughtercult stands for own satanic, nihilistic, misantrophic believes. Our definitions of these terms probably collide with those predefined by the human majority. As we do not bow down before any man made god, may that be Zebaoth or the personified evil called Satan, our lyrics go beyond such broad subjects. There is by far more to it than having the word “Satan”, “Hell”, “Evil” or the likes in every sentence of the lyrics. That would just be too shallow and generic. Our thoughts are deeply rooted in soil imbued by occultism. Some scrolls of lyrical enlightenment certainly have a dark, mystical touch while others take a more brutal, bestial violence approach. As we take the entire Slaughtercult very fucking serious it feels natural to also interpret honest feelings and thought patterns into the lyrics. Be assured that this reflects every aspect of every single release. No comprise, no trend orientation … we shall not succumb !

Not that it is that important at all. But you have a female in your line-up. There are not many bands in your musical vein that have feature women. What do you think could be a reason for this?
As mentioned numerous times before: Slaughtercult does not reduce individuals to a mere gender. May that be male or female ! A vivid description to deepen this thought: upon the great vast battlefield it does not matter through which hand the judging blade swiftly strikes down. Death has many faces – not just male and female. We do not put any importance into the gender. Slaughtercult stands as a union, shoulder by shoulder, sword by sword and axe by axe. In general extreme individuals are rare – only those may join the Slaughtercult.

You have shared the stage with many well-known black metal bands in the past. What is the most remarkable show so far?
Taking a look back to our darkened past we are facing 2 years of more or less constant bloodstained live battles. There were some fellow comrade in arms with whom we gladly joined forces on several occasions. On the other hand travelling around to different countries also gives insight into the international underground. Partially there have been some very important insights, which will prevent us from sharing a stage with certain disappointing “bands” and/or individuals ever again. One of the most remarkable shows was probably on shitmas eve 2002 in Arnhem (NL). A great reaction by the audience ! They faced the double bladed axe literally crushing christianity !

Can you recommend us some bands that are (too) unknown to the most of our readers?
Very much recommended are Fluisterwoud (who are apparently unknown outside of the Netherlands), Goetia (Poland) as well as those hordes appearing on DNS split vinyl !

Since you contacted me via e-mail I guess you are following the scene quite a lot. How much are you involved? And does internet play a role in this? And what about (fan) zines, tape trading etc.
As DNS has an official web hell the internet does play a certain role. Just like the web can live without http://www.slaughtercult.de/, we could also live without the world wide web. It allows fast information exchange as well as easier communication/contact. All serious inquiries by e-mail and ofcorpse snail mail are answered. We do not follow the scene ! We do have our contacts with whom we stay in touch. These are bands, zines, labels, selected individuals which have been supporting us directly. On some occasions -like this one- contact is established through unforeseen events. Our interest in the majority of the underground scene has been drowned by a flood of too many below average “we are the truest black metal band ever” releases. Drowned by too many unworthy to mention albums. “Insignificant to me you are…” Thus trades are reduced to a minimum. If at all merely with individuals of our choice.

What is your top-5 of the past year?
Some of the latest stuff acquired which was ale to remain noteworthy: Urgehal, Fluisterwoud, Primigenium … ?!?!

These were my questions, thanks for the interview! The last words are classically yours!
Await the third coming … with pounding trembles in the earth, with solemn pace it draws near !

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Krisiun – “The reality is darker than fantasy”

A few weeks ago The Netherlands knew the return of Krisiun, an event both parties always look forward to. And this time I was even more excited as usual, since their last release, ‘The Works of Carnage’, is their best so far.

Once I found my way in the backstage labyrinth, and entered the right dressing room, things could get started. And after the somewhat standard questions about the new album we had an interesting conversation about some less music-related subjects, where the three brothers in Krisiun turned out to be very relaxed & social guys, with a great interest in foreign cultures. And even though they hardly have the chance to set one foot outside their nightliner, they knew a great deal about the Netherlands. And the questions about the resulted in some remarkable answers, by the way. Krisiun & straightforward’ Not two words that I would associate very easily, or expect to see in the same sentence, but this occurred over & over again.

And so, while consuming a lot (!) of snacks and yours truly emptied quite a few bottles of, according to the band, Holland’s best beer; Heineken, we talked about many subjects. For instance; Football. Despite the fact Brazil is famous for football, it was a surprise to enter their dressing room and to see the television showing the game between Manchester United and Aston Villa. It was a nice way to end our meeting though; the band laughing their asses off, and kept handing me beers, to relief my pain of Brazil beating the Netherlands on the World Championship of 1994.

The reason that the answers are so comprehensive was because both Alex, Moyses and Max wanted their answers stated, hehe.

The obvious first subject was Krisiun’s new album. On the contrary their previous effort, I haven’t read a single bad review about this album. The band itself also seems happy with it, and obviously like receiving compliments: Congratulations! I never ever expected you could possibly top ‘Conquerors of Armageddon’, but this new album is the best Krisiun album I ever heard.
All right! Though that was obviously our intention, it still is good to hear things like this! We appreciate this.

‘Works of Carnage’ is in my combination the perfect blend of the more technical direction you took with ‘Ageless Venomous’, and the unrelenting brutality of the ‘Conquerors of Armageddon’-era’ Do you agree on this?
Sure, man! I think ‘Ageless Venomous’ was a big step forward for us, because I think we grew a lot as a band when we recorded ‘Ageless Venomous’. That sure was a big push for us.

Due to the drumsound on ‘Ageless Venomous’ you were falsely accused of working with triggered drums & even a drumcomputer. As we all saw during live shows, those are nothing but false acquisitions…
Right! Fuckers!

…is that one of the reasons the drum-sound on ‘Works of Carnage’ sounds more natural and somewhat heavier?
Somehow yeah. It was indeed an influence to come back to something more aggressive, something more natural. There are a lot of differences, and not just for the drum-sound. We also chose to put the guitar more in front, just as the bass. When we recorded ‘Ageless Venomous’ we wanted to do something cleaner. We wanted people to hear every single detail, to let them hear what we were capable of. But now we wanted to do something different. We have been playing Death Metal for quite a long time, and it was a good experience for us to do this album. We kinda went back to our roots, kinda more straightforward. Some people hear a clear drumsound, a cleeeeeeeeck (© Southpark), bassdrum-sound, and therefore they think it’s electronic, it’s triggered! But they have no idea what they’re talking about. We are fast, so to them it’s clear that Krisiun uses electronics. And I don’t blame anybody for saying stuff like that. Hell no, I put their names on the guestlist and invite ‘em to a Krisiun show, haha.

Then about the duration of the album. Even though the European version will have an bonustrack, it lasts about 32 minutes..
Right
and that is including an intro, ..
Right
…an outro..
Right
…and a Venom cover.
Right
Most bands say that if an album is as extreme as this, lasts too long, it loses it’s impact.
Right again, haha

But hey, ‘Conquerors of Armaggedon’ was pretty intense & extreme, and I have no trouble listening through that extra quarter. So, what was the reason for not recording an extra couple of songs?
Well, I think the main difference is that the songs on ‘Conquerors of Armageddon’ are longer. And on ‘Works of Carnage’, we wanted to do something more straightforward, more natural. Most songs were the result of jam sessions. Fucking around a bit, with guitars, drums. And, for maniacs as you, the album being short has a major advantage by the way, you can now play it more often in a row. With long albums people don’t tend to do so, hahaha! A lot of bands are releasing ‘long’ albums, with a lot of keyboards, and on this album we purposely choose not to do so. And as for those albums, if you take away the intro’s & outro’s, their albums don’t last over 28 minutes either. We have 32 minutes of real Metal.

And if you hear Slayer’s Reign in blood that one does not even last 30 minutes.

I like the Venom cover..
Yeah! We love Venom! That’s one of those bands that we grew up with. They really inspired us.
…and you kept the original feeling to it…
Hehe, we did huh? Even though we played it a tííííny bit faster, and more brutal, but it certainly has the same vibe.
It’s certainly a bit more original then another Slayer cover. Why did you choose for this song particularly?
No reason, actually. We just had a good time jamming, the song is quite simple and before we knew it, it was on the album. And there we go again, the song was really..
Straightforward, I guess?
Huhu, yeah.

What’s the function of the intro & the outro? And what exactly are we listening to? Sounds like wind blowing…
Well..no. Nice try, but still; no. Hehe. Those are sounds that we made ourselves, they were created during our wah-wah torture sessions. And not as everybody thinks, keyboards or computers. Those Wgggwhwgeeehgahgagwwgwaargh sounds represent real chaos. I agree with you that it sounds like wind, though.

Despite the fact that Krisiun hardly is home anymore due to their busy tour-schedule, they still have a good view on the situation in their home country, and this is probably lyric-inspiration source #1. My promo did not contain any lyrics, but with song-titles as ‘Ethereal world’ & ‘Sentinel of this fallen earth’ I was curious what the lyrics are about, and the band grabbed this opportunity with both hands…
This is about our ways, the apocalyptic visions we have in our albums. We particularly deal with the real world, the actual facts we see today & we had in the past. We believe in what you see is what you get. So, hehe, we are not telling a bunch of demon-stuff, or a lot of fantasy but we talk about mass-murdering, about war, about Christianity. About things we see, about war-problems, political problems, taking over the world and making people suffer or die. However, we have no intention to save the world. We are just human beings, believing our time here is short, and it is not really our problem. Just follow what you feel. Witness what’s happening. We are in the world of musicians. Our music is brutal, it is dark, and it has aggressive feelings. And so are the lyrics too. We do write lyrics that match with the music. We cannot sing about love, haha. Or about partying. No, we sing about murdering, and vengeance. What we sing about is reality. The reality is darker than fantasy.

Is it worse in South America compared with Europe?
Yeah, definitely. Brazil is different. Brazil is the third world. We see a lot of misery, a lot of pain. We have a lot of problems that do not occur over here. The Netherlands are fantastic country. A calm small country, everything works, an old country. Brazil on the other hand only exist for four hundred years, when we were discovered by pirates. Then a lot of Africans were brought in, and after that the Spanish and Portuguese people started taking over. You know, the black or foreign people in the Netherlands or the US get something from the government, but in Brazil no-one cares for ‘em.

Of course we also have a good side. People with money, the beautiful landscapes, our football, haha. Brazil is full of ups & downs. But the bad side shows kids from twelve years old, carrying guns, ready to kill people, and how strange this may sound, this really inspires us. This is the real thing going on. But what you see nowadays, the wars, those have nothing do with Brazil. So, luckily we don’t have those troubles too. We are busy enough with our own shit.

And, when looking at the cool artwork, I wondered what the relation is between the band and snakes’ Both poisonous, deadly & suffocating, or do you too like to eat rats, hehe?
Hahahaha, fuck no man. A snake represents so much. It’s the beginning of a lot of ancient myths, the ancient Egypt, the ancient Celtic, and even the ancient Aztec myths. The snake was a pride symbol, representing science, mathematics. A lot of stuff banished by the Christians, inner intelligence. Christians fought against science, because it proves the fact that the entire Christendom was based on myths, and not on actual history. The snake was declared the symbol of Lucifer, of evil.

There are but few extreme metal bands that have the chance to visit countries all over the world. I do not know about other people, but that sure as hell is one of the things I would like about touring; sightseeing. At least I thought so, because is there actually an opportunity at all to see something of those countries?
Mostly we stay on the venue, simply because we don’t have time to go out. Except for the Netherlands of course, haha. Hey, your weed is the very best there is, man. Tilburg is a very nice city. We were walking downtown, everybody is friendly, telling us tourists what to visit. One thing though; you guys better be kidding to call this horror Carnival! Where are the women!?

Don’t you regret that? There are not that much people that have the opportunity to see the entire world.
Sometimes, yeah. But, you have to understand that we’re so happy to be able to do the things we are doing right now. We never, ever expected this when we once formed Krisiun. But hey, we just keep on going and who knows, one day. And now we’re touring again with Morbid Angel! That’s amazing. We would like to play with the classic three one day, Slayer, Mötörhead and Venom someday, but we’ll see.

Ageless Venomous, hmm?
Fuck yeah, we are!

I recently talked with Pat from Cannibal Corpse, and we agreed on the fact that the guys of Slayer are not very much into Death Metal..
We know, but; fuck! They released ‘Reign in Blood’! We learned so much from that album!

Yesterday I saw the DVD by Occult, and you were on it, too. Learning how to swear in Dutch, haha. Have you in the meantime learned more about Holland, and what do you think of it?
Really’ Huhuh, euh..well..don’t remember that. I guess we were drunk. But it’s cool. It was an awesome tour. And about our Dutch, we actually start picking up some other languages besides Portuguese and English. Not much though, but it’s a start. And yeah, we can play drunk, smoke a joint before a show, but we hardly do it. Those days are over.

I read something about a Krisiun DVD?
We are gonna release a DVD this year, hopefully in a few months. Not sure though, but we try, haha. The DVD is gonna have some shows of the past two years, from the ‘Ageless Venomous’-tour and there’s gonna be a show we did for ‘Works of Carnage’ we did in Sao Paulo, Brazil. We have like 5 camera’s, the sound from the soundboard, it has a really good sound. Besides this there are some shots from the band recording ‘Works of Carnage’. It’s gonna be a complete material-overview for the real fan.

I take it the crowds in Sao Paulo are a lot more enthusiastic as they are over here?
Yes, it’s one of the best places for us to play. We played by ourselves in Sao Paulo, and we draw more than a thousand people. It was a really good turn-out.

I just saw the video for ‘Murderer’. Doesn’t it feel strange to perform in an empty hall, banging your head off?
Haha, no, it wasn’t. You should see us practicing, haha. Our necks grow bigger and stronger each rehearsal. So, it felt naturally.

What can we Europeans expect from the extra footage on ’Works of carnage’?
We put some Japanese songs on the album, our Slayer cover ‘Silent Scream’, and the videoclip you mentioned. And the American version has ‘They call me Death’, and some other stuff.

I once read a quote that Metal bands that only consist of three members, play pure Metal, simply because they lack the additional arms to start fuckin’ around with other, unnecessary instruments. What’s your opinion on that quote?
Very good man, that’s so true! We are a three-piece and are Metal to the bone! On purpose. We just wanted to be as Metal as possible. I’m not saying Krisiun is the ultimate, the best or fastest band on the planet, but we just do it our way, we do what we wanted to do. We are a three-piece and I cannot imagine us being something else.

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In Aeternum: “…we never saw us as a compliment to Dissection”

About a month ago, VM reviewed In Aeternum’ ‘Nuclear Armageddon’. Due to the impact in changes of style and production we were anxious to hear their side of the story. Other matters will also be questioned of course concerning the past, present and futuristic developments of this Swedish band. Frontman David Larsson – being a frequent visitor to our humble website so he claims – was the ideal spokesperson to clear minor misunderstandings and rumours circulating his band.

Avé David! Fuck those who’ve never heard of In Aeternum, but would you give the ignorant a brief introduction how things got started anyway?
I can only advise people to check out http://www.inaeternum.com/ for that information. All I can say is that out of the 2 people who started the band back then it’s only me left. A long time has passed since those days.

Your band started out as Behemoth in ’92, but two years later you changed your name into In Aeternum. Was this because of the establishment of the well known Polish act – whom are still kicking serious ass today – who was took the same bandname in ’91?
We changed it because of them and also to mark the beginning of a new era for the band. All because we changed members and I was the only one left from ’92.

How did your response go when unleashing ‘Nuclear Armageddon’? Are North- and South America also big consumers of your products – from the first ’till the last release – compared to Europe and the continents close to it?
So far so good, I don’t think I’ve seen a really bad review so far. So that feels good as I didn’t have a clue of what to expect of this album. I just wish it had been released when it was planned to be out. To tell the truth I’m not exactly sure how the US market looks for this album. I know all the previous ones have had it’s share of the market in the past. Then of course we had an American label to support us. So my guess is that we sell the most in the European region. Wouldn’t mind having a proper distributor in the US though.

The new Dissection promise…-phrase. Well, that was the kind of label you guys got after the release of ‘Forever Blasphemy’. An epic album indeed and I expected that you would sit on that special throne once claimed by the talons of Jon and company. Years later you’re still an extremely good band, but your style has changed enough to undo this statement once made. Could you give us your view on this and did you hate/like the comparison with Dissection? Did you not feel supported by Necropolis back then?
Well we took that as a compliment even though we ourselves didn’t think we sounded like the mighty Dissection. Which still remain one of the best bands ever. So we didn’t mind it at all, we never saw us as a compliment to Dissection.

We got a great support from Necropolis back in those days, they sent us on tour and also arranged for us to play a few shows in the US back in 2001. That was really great to hang out with the guys and girl behind the label. We also met a lot of great guys over there such as Jim Durkin and stayed at his place. The Sadistic Intent guys was true metal brothers, hail to them.

Whatever happened to the line-up of In Aeternum’ early days? It seems that every release changes within the ranks are in order. When counting, it must be a small posse of musicians who left since the beginning of the band in ’92. Does this feature have any consequences or do you write the music and lyrics alone anyhow? Current line-up status…
Well we had a pretty stable line up between -94 and -97 then we let our bass player go. So from 94 up until 2002 we had me on guitar and vocals + the same second guitar player throughout that time. Only bass players changed for the most part. We also had the same drummer from 98 to 2002. Then we had a bunch of losers coming and going on bass. The current line up is: David / vocals, guitar, Daniel / 7 string lead guitar, Per / drums and Robert on bass. So we’ll see how long this will last.

I have always been writing the lyrics myself and will continue to do so as it looks now. Regarding the music we’re all part of that process, and I must say that Daniel is coming up with some intense riffing. Also Per does his thing on the drums, after 21 years of playing he knows the deal. Robert is the newest guy and time will tell what he’s capable of. So the changes hasn’t had any impact on the music writing at all.

In the feedback of doing an interview or not, you mentioned In Aeternum has already recorded a 7’ EP entitled ‘Poison The Holy’. Is this release still scheduled to be unleashed in March, was this piece also recorded at Abyss Studios (with Tommy Tägtgren) and is the style the same as on your latest ‘Nuclear Armageddon’?
We still haven’t decided if it’s going to be a 7’ or a MCD yet. It was recorded at Abyss with Tommy during 2 hectic days. I would say it’s more intense, a mix between ‘Forever Blasphemy’ and ‘Nuclear Armageddon’. We have some really interesting melodies and harmonies on those 2 songs + some great lead guitar work. We have also managed to make 2 more new songs, still untitled.

How did you get in touch with Agonia Records and how many releases are you contracted obliged to release after ‘Nuclear Armageddon’?
We signed on for 1 album and if things where going good we would sign for 1 more + a MCD or 7’. That’s what we have done. Many things fell through and we ended up on Agonia and they stepped up for us in a very good way. They’re a growing label so we’re in a pretty good position so far.

On your new – and already better looking than the previous – website an announcement is mentioned that rehearsals have started for the making of the next album. Did you by now finish a couple of tracks and what will their titles be? Any kind of info would be most welcome.
4 songs have been finished and we have 2 titles ready, ‘No Salvation’ and ‘Poison The Holy’. Studio time has been booked for June and we hope to have it out in August/September. So we’re working our asses off to get the 8 songs we need for it.

Within these same writings In Aeternum said they’re auditioning for bass players at the moment. Surely global maniacs have replied thus far, but did you’ve had your eye on one particular musician in your country? I mean there must be more than half a dozen whom can handle the bass duties and qualify as (extremely) right persons, since some major bands are rooted in Sweden.
We got a bass player now that we’re working with to try and find out if he’s the right guy for the job. We are all different characters so it’s hard to fit together on a personal level as well as on the band level.

When will this new website (www.InAeternum.com) be fully operational and globally accessible for metalheads? Will you personally add various info to the site and navigation options to prevent false rumors, avoid misconceptions etc.
I don’t know when it will be completely ready, it takes time. So far the news, biography and photo page is up and running. More will follow ASAP. I will provide all the news as well as other information on the site. My brother is handling all programming for the site so he’s doing that when time allows it.

David, you’ve said that the main difference between old and the new acts within the black metal scene is the image. Nowadays bands have to try to be as evil as possible, but the oldies didn’t have to try as hard as they were evil by themselves. Is this something disturbing for you? Don’t you like to play with (most) newer acts. Could you give some examples of the newer and older bands who fit in your answer? I would say King Diamond as a person is one of those older acts who has that kind of evil aura around him.
I totally agree about the King, also Darkthrone still has a special aura around them. We’ll play with anybody as long as they’re not Christian. I don’t give a rats ass about that. It was just a reflection I made with that statement. I’m sure a lot of people will agree on that, as well as disagree with me. I don’t care.

You’ve been intrigued by death and all what concerns this subject. Besides this morbid fascination, you mentioned that you’re also interested in cultures of your own heritage – namely Vikings (Go Andy Fordham!) – and the Maya people. Though I can relate death and destruction being a Viking theme, it’s not so obvious at first to understand the link to the once majestic culture located in Central America. Would you explain this?
Regarding the Maya culture I just find it interesting reading about it. That is something personal and not something I put into the band in some way. I also don’t use the Viking thing in the band which is quite obvious. It’s all about learning some history and heritage.

If you need a cover for a tribute, call In Aeternum! The band actually did a lot of covers, such as King Diamond’ ‘Abigail’, Morbid Angel’ ‘Maze Of Torment’ and don’t forget your participation for ‘In Conspiracy With Satan – Bathory tribute’. Which bands or songs do you still want to cover?
No more covers for a while is what we decided last time we rehearsed. There has been to many to mention. We did talk about Dark Angel and Possessed before, so we might do it sometime. Now we concentrate on the next album instead.

David…admit it! You Sir, are a vinylfreak! When it comes to good old vinyl everyone talks about the sound and cover artwork. Tell us your story about vinyl and which items are your precious ones? Your prrrrrrecious!!! Is there an item that you still regret you didn’t bought back then?
I sure am, still buying vinyl when I have the chance. They are not practical at all but it has that special feeling when you hold that big cover in your hands. I still remember me and a friend going to town to buy Twisted Sister, W.A.S.P. and Motörhead albums. The very first LP I bought was a compilation with bands such as Saxon, Rage, Dokken and Rose Tattoo. That was awesome listening to that record, I still have it and listens to it from time to time. I don’t think I ever regretted not buying a record. The only regret is probably not having enough money back then to buy every damn thing that got out.

P-LP or CD; which artwork or artist do you think is stunning and worth mentioning? This question popped-up since Necrolord has done some astonishing detailed work for you.
‘Don’t Break The Oath’ is a really good cover also ‘Orgasmatron’ is stunning artwork. Necrolord, Petagno, Jacec Wisniewski and Chris Moyen are doing really good stuff. they all do their own different style.

Okay, here are two frequently asked questions concerning other bands. Dark Funeral has done a split-CD with Infernal and they included a nasty looking Impious. Why aren’t you among these bastards anymore?
To put it simple, I didn’t have enough time for it. Infernal has done some really good songs, but that is all in the past.

How is War doing – assuming David still participates in this band – and what’s in store in the near future?
Same goes for War, no time. I also think that band is dead and buried by now.

I trust we’re going to see In Aeternum touring and blaspheme Europe in due time. Do you already know some interesting gigs and dates where you’re going to perform destruction?
We will for sure tour this year throughout Europe, look for info on our website. For now we’re only concentrating on the next album. Gigs are of course always welcome, so drop us a line if you got something coming up and need a good band to perform.

Final blaspheme propaganda is yours man! Thanks for your time!
Thanks a lot for the honour of being on the VM site. Check out http://www.inaeternum.com/ for the latest news about In Aeternum. Nuclear Armageddon is upon us all!!!

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Messiah – “Be your own Messiah and enjoy yourself!”

Fancy yourself wandering around on some big festival, at an Amon Amarth show and then… You walk into a guy with a baseball cap and a real awesome Messiah-hoody. You ask the man where got that thing, and then he tells you that he is the webmaster of the band and is some kind of a tourmanager, friend and roadie. And the girl besides him seems the guitarist’s wife… Quite a coinsidence indeed. That was what happened to me on the With Full Force festival this last summer. We talked about all kinds of things and we changed contact addresses, so… When the festival was done and I was back in Holland again I got an e-mail from the guy. He got me in contact with Bröggi (guitarist of the band) and he agreed to do an exclusive interview for Vampire-Magazine. I haven’t got such an honour before to do an interview with one of the pioneers of the European death/thrash metal scene. So, I present you one of the longest interviews I have ever conducted with one of the best bands ever to walk on the European vastlands: Messiah… Enjoy yourself!!

 

Hey man! Let’s start with the question how you look back on the active years of Messiah
Well, let me first say hello to all readers and how proud I am to be interviewed here! I remember those times with Messiah with different feelings: the very old times with the original line up is that far away, that`s like a dream for me. But I remember with positive feelings a time of real brutal thrashing live shows and a great time we had in the underground-scene to that time. The second new Messiah-line up helped us to get more professional with the albums “Choir Of Horrors” and “Rotten Perish”. “Underground” destroyed Messiah….

How do you look back at each CD?
Unreleased first “demo-tape” 1984: a witness of our first feelings and mirror of our half-year lessons in playing our instruments… :- )
Powertrash: Messiah`s first official demo and a proud release in the underground. I think this tape with its reactions in the scene was more important for us as the first album release “Hymn To Abramelin”!
The infernal thrashing…: second official demo and pre-production for “Hymn To Abramelin”. A great time with our second guitarist “Stony” (R.I.P.1998), with whom I created riffs of “Hymn To Abramelin”.
Hymn to abramelin: first possibility to enter the scene out of the underground with a debut-album. Low budget, real sound made by ourselves, great feelings in the band, first concerts…..
Extreme cold weather: the second album with the great influences of our live shows, and the sad time we split off …
Psychomorphia 1989 demo: first reunion with new members: with that tape we get the deal with noise records.
Psychomorphia/Choir of horrors 1990/1991/Rotten Perish1992: first albums produced professional and for me personally the best Messiah times we ever had.
Underground 1994: the termination and fact that this was no more longer Messiah: I hate this release because the vocals, lyrics and strange hardcore-influences!

Where did you get your inspiration of at that time? What bands did influence you?
Music: I was (and astill am) inspired by bands like Manilla Road, Blessed Death, old Artillery, Sindrome, Witchfinder General, old Anvil, Tygers Of Pan Tang etc. Live: all the experiences of our live shows, especially for the songs on “Extreme Cold Weather”. This is my personal influence and some people could think now what these mentioned bands have to do with Messiah? Messiah`s music is a mixture of different styles of preferred music of each member. Tschösi used more the extreme and I mixed it with more “normal, but real metal-influences”… :- )

What’s the reason why “Underground” wasn’t as good as the others?
The great band’s feeling was destroyed after Patric and Andy left. For me Messiah was history again before we entered the studio with Christofer on vocals. And it was also my fault cause I made too much compromises in the songs, resigned in lyrics and the new compositions were not my style of making the messiah sound.

What’s with “The Ballad Of Jesus”, I never saw that till I saw your site. What’s the tracklist for example?
Not important to be mentioned: primitive lyrics of Christofer, censored in Scandinavia after its release, in some juke boxes a hit (at my home’s pup!) different mixes of the same title in techno and that’s all, sad but true – and forgotten… YEAS!

Did you ever realised you were busy to grow to a real cult status when you put out “Hymn To Abramelin”?
Oh no!! None of us thought that this could be a theme sometimes. We were busy to realise a first album and to be proud to have done it and with all its problems and with the low budget but great feelings we never took it as some kind of a cult status. And I am sure to that time we didn’t even know that something like a cult status existed… (Really – I didn’t know that this exist…)

Do you think it is justified that people look up to you this way?
I am happy when people like our music and have fun with it and had fun on our gigs as well. But my personal opinion is, that if someone look up to a relative successful person, doesn’t matter as musician, artist, actor, architect and, and, and… with the same personal taste, he does look up `cause he want to be one the same position and take identification. But that’s not the point, the product, the art, the fun of the artist is the important thing! Ok, simple answer: NO, each one has to be his own Messiah!!!

How do you think about the cult status yourself?
It took more and more part of thinking about it the time after Messiah split and more we did the ‘Reanimation’-thing 2003 and released the first two albums again. I always try to identify what it really means and it lets me fall in a schizo-situation of a good and bad thing. Let me tell the strange aspect first: the word “cult” is a very actual used word for old things that don’t exist actually in its original form and remembers me on my grandfathers words “in our times it was …bla, blabla…”. But I am a person that always looks forward and don’t want to be lost in the past. OK, I understand that the word “cult” is used in most Messiah-reviews, and stands for a positive and good thing and may be for longing to our music, and this is the positive way of thinking of which I’m really proud.

What do you yourself consider the best Messiah album, and why?
“Rotten perish” from 1992: the best line-up with the best feeling during that times, and “Rotten Perish” is the mirror for these fantastic times. I like also the production. And Messiah changed so many things in the life of each one of us, during the “Rotten Perish”-times I met my wife and this happened only because of the several rehearsing-times with guests…

Did (or do) you have anything to do with other Swiss bands like Samael, Coroner or Celtic Frost?
From the old times I know Martin of Celtic Frost (Martin Eric Ain a.k.a. Slayed Necros – Felix), and of course our producer “Dinosaur” (former roadie of Celtic Frost) who gave us the possibility to record our first two albums “Hymn To Abramelin” and “Extreme Cold Weather”. The guys of Coroner are more known by Steve, the second drummer, coming also from Zürich, Samael played a support for us in 1987 in Geneve.

You might’ve said this about a million times in the metal press before, but I (and with me a couple hundred) missed it, but why did Messiah quit?
Messiah split two times and I think it was both because of personal problems, but different. The music of Messiah has different influences of musical-styles from the members, and all members were and are too different to be strong as one. And to be “a lied one” for an image – is and was never an acceptable philosophy for Messiah. And we never were “a professional band” with all its compulsions. But we split up because the very important good feeling was lost, why to be together if it works not again?

And what did the four of you after calling it a day?
We met each other in a pub, all from the old and the new line-up and each one of us gave his opinion about an reunion and his possibility to participate… First, some of us met on my wedding on February 2002.

What do you guys do for a living these days?
Tschösi is working at a IT-firm for Internet-solutions. Jazzy has it own painter-business. Steve is working at a CD-press factory. Andy distributes an American sun-crème on the coast of South Spain where he lives with his family. Frugi (Patrick), is working in a tools-factory. And I am working with my father in our own office for architecture.

Didn’t you (or don’t you) miss the fact being in a metalband (of the Messiah calibre?)
If you asked me that question ten years ago in the same situation – maybe. But now I am happy with my situation and feel more “free” in my life, cause music turned “to became” just a second priority. Please don’t get me wrong, music is always very important in my live, but I also can realise it in a more quiet and slow style with my solo project…

What was the reaction of your fans after you quit?
I don’t know because I left the scene. But I received several letters from ‘sad’ fans in my PO-Box with their opinions…

Do you still have contact with your fans?
No, not really, but most of them from Switzerland were friends of us!

I heard you are still active in another band, could you supply with some information about this band?
Yeas, I will realise a solo-project called “Mourningside”, but I take my time and may be it`s a egoistic thinking: I do it for myself! Just of fun and interesting in music, I think I will release a demo-cd without a deal with a record-company, just for fun and without the “pi,pa,po” of the scene and buisness-shit….he,he more on the messiah-websites soon!

Are any of the other Messiah-members active in any other musical projects?
Steve plays in a cover band called “Mirto-Massacre”, Frugi used to play bass in a band called “Chapter Seven”, played before in Succubus. Jazzy plays since 97`in Braindead. Tschösi and Andy stopped making music.

Are all Messiah members still metalheads anyway?
This question I can’t answer definitively, cause I don’t know how the others think. Let me explain my situation: If I will be 85 your old, I’m sure that I will listen the same and upcoming brutal stuff from the metal scene. My heart will be always the same, but u must understand, that a lot things in a man’s live will change and I think you only can definite a “metal-head” as a species who take this proud live-feeling forever in his heart. But if I had to identify me with the nowadays scene, I must say no, I am not a metal-head – just a fucking poser…! :- )

So, why did you want to do the Reanimation tour 2003?
For all the people who liked to see us again for one time and the newer and younger maniacs who discovered Messiah with the re-releases.

What was your expectation for this reunion?
First, let me say that this was not a reunion, cause we did it only for two shows without future planning. Messiah never exists again, just a deja-vue for a moment. A lot of other bands do reunions with touring and new albums. But I think if we would do an new album, it couldn’t be Messiah again – too different feelings and the people who know Messiah couldn’t identify… (Wait for Mourningside – and you will hear what I mean…) That’s why we didn’t call it a reunion, just an reanimation.

Weren’t you afraid that you “didn’t have it anymore” to go onstage again? That the feeling got lost?
Yeas and no… Yes since the last two concerts 2003, no because the band had to exist again. If we talked five years earlier and you would ask me if I sometimes will enter the stage again, hehehe… NO!

How did you prepare yourself for this event?
Two things: the first one was possible to calculate: rehearsing all the old stuff, and believe me, it was hard work because I stopped playing guitar regularly the last nine years. Fuckin’ hard work a half year with rehearsing one evening a week and a lot of rehearsing work at home all the days with the CD’s – only for two gigs! No one can say we did it for money…(some people suggested that in a well-known magazine). The second one: mentally it was not easy for me, cause it was ten years ago after I was on stage, and if you weren’t in the scene, you ask yourself with all these expectations of the fans wheter you still you can do it or not? And that’s perfect the point we didn’t want to do an reunion: we only tried to realise a journey back what the people know, without to be a new “reunion-band”. Another problem was, that we rehearsed only a short time with Andy, cause he lives with his family in Spain, for some rehearsing-sessions we could arrange some vocals with my good friend and singer of Mourningside.

Could you tell us about the show in Zürich, Switzerland? How was the show itself, how was the reaction of the crow and the reactions afterwards
For me personal, it was a great show, one of the best Messiah gigs ever. There is a very wonderful review of that concert from Dalia of Gryphon-metal magazine that tells all about. So let me add here these words:

Event of first class this evening in Zürich at the Abart Club: cult Death/Thrash band Messiah will play one last concert in Switzerland , followed by the last opportunity to see them play live at the With Full Force Festival in Germany, in a couple of weeks (4.-6. JULI 2003). it’s not a reunion, only a “reanimation”, this is to say a moment offered to the fans and to the band itself in order to stay together one time more, for playing live once again, before the definitive goodbye from the stages.

1994 the Swiss Giants of Death split up, but then in september 2002 the cult albums “Hymn To Abramelin” and “Extreme Cold Weather” were re-issued by Massacre Records. Times were definately ripe for a memorable come back. Messiah will play tonight presenting themselves with the 1992 line -up : singer Andy Kaina, guitarist and founder member Brögi, bassist Patrick Hersche and drummer Steve Karrer.

After the last tickets bought this evening, the Abart is completely crowded and sold out, doors open at 20:00 and we arrive just when the crowd begins to flock to the venue. The Abart club is guesting an important event after the other in this period, and today will turn into the Swiss Death temple “par excellence” , think! the Abart with its Gothic attitude is guesting tonight the connoisseirs of the hard Swiss Metal scene from Lucerne to Bern, without speaking of all the guys arrived from abroad, in particularly Germany, where a group of fans has even planned and organized special bus travels in order to live this cult show . For us of GM the cult began yesterday always in Zürich , when we had the possibility to make a very nice and interesting interview with the charismatic Brögi of Messiah .. So prepare to bang your head and prepare to Death in this hot summer Reanimation night! no fear , you will resurrect!

The Show
23:05 in few minutes Messiah will be back for just one night in their Switzerland, powered by the founder member Brögi: the atmosphere is electrified, everyone is waiting with enthusiasm, trying hard to get a good place in order to make handbanging or to see the band better. Drummer Steve Karrer is preparing the drumkits, setting the cymbals. The crowd begins to greet ” haaa Steve!!” and to acclaim Messiah – “Messiah!!! Messiah!!” ; the last sound check is carried out “Messiah!! Messiah!

23:20 here they are: Bassist Hersche, drummer Karrer , singer Andy Kaina and The spirit of Messiah “Brögi” take the stage among applauses outstreched hands, and a lot of sincere approvals. Brögi has prepared a cool apparition , he shows up on the stage wit a lot of energy, absolutely concentrated and good mooded, brandishing a bow for strings playing his guitar with it taking out incredible sounds that enhance the start of the show. Bow off and hymn to Abramelin on , the bangers are in rapture and me too, cause already from the first moments i measure how this band master the situation: it seems that a gap of almost 8 years has never existed, they play like they would be trained by a long but not exhaustive tour: excellent notes, great virtuosisms. My gosh, many bands nowadays move their first steps into success having everything: studios, producers, labels, managers and similar luxuries, on the contrary ,when Messiah began in the 80’s their fantastic and mythical career, they had nothing if not their determination, creativity and enthusiasm, believing in their musical dream and not in money. But Look now how they play, how brilliant they are and above how modern their music sounds., They could tread any stage , taking part of any festival, tour or event, remaining a big span higher than many others .

Songs like Space Invaders, Choir of Horrors, Akasha Circle, Living with a Confidence follow in the setlist. What i really like is that their music turns out , chord after chord, so rich with many facettes to enjoy: from brutal rhythm to more melodic passages you can have everything you desire from Death and Thrash Metal , without omitting even rock touches. The music is well structured and immediately comprehensible though it’s a live show: the sound is really very good , thanks to ability of the band helped by the sound engineer from Zeche Bochum, if i have understood well.

Anyway the great preparation and attention for the sound lets underline Andy’s vocals which are impressive. No one would believe he has established since long time in another continent, having there other interests than music and singing. No, no one would believe! So, very good vocals, brilliant guitar and great bass work. But another great characteristic of Messiah tonight are the powerful drums that hit me really: not hyperactive but lively and mighty , Messiah drums can be fast or slow with right essential and effective strokes, being able to shoot also very bass grenades . They support the band with a brilliant, exact and involving solid frame: they are protagonist without giving the idea to be. And this introduces the fact that Messiah, like shortly mentioned above, can be melodic and doom too, with enthralling stop-starts. Brögi’s melodic picking, that many times open or close a song, are simply clear, well executed.

What can i say more, if not the enthusiasm of their fans is immense; ovations, wild moshing, hands raised towards the band, acclamations. While Brögi, as Lord of this absolute enthusiasm, is headbanging like hell. Another point: Messiah are very heavy , they put everybody under a severe progression of heaviness but they can be gentle and harmonic when they want: this is old school, meant like having valid musical schemes and being able to create an atmosphere without electronic crap. Charismatic personalities, all Messiah members entertain the audience and don’t disappoint anybody. The setlist is awsome, with songs taken from every mile stone album .Their fans have so much waited for this event and they are fully rewarded. Every song is the hammer, with a mythical aura!

At 00:32 the show ends among the general satisfaction, mega success in more than pure Candlemass style. The encore is a must , so soon they are back : “Messa – iahhh – Messa- iahhh – Messa – iahhh !” ovations, and new dose of electrfying and pushing Death as the concert would just begin again this moment, under green and orange lights. 00:44 the band greets everybody “danke vielmals!” but they cannot surely escape a second encore: after one minute they are again on the stage in front of the hungry Abart, alternating pushing rhythms with romantic guitar passages. 00:50 the reanimation show is ended, though another encore would have been fully welcomed. Time has simply flown away. Moreover tonight, no one noticed how small the stage here is and the sound was cool. Small big magic done by people who prepare their shows really good. After The with Full Force Messiah will no longer play, silence for “eternity”, but …just a minute: guys ! if space and time are relative, the eternity can be even short. Metal still needs you Messiah, you can reanimate when you want! It was worth for everyone to be here, it was worth to come from the North of Germany too, so it will be worth waiting for eternity.
REVIEW BY dalia “gryphon_spirit” di giacomo

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What made you take the decision of doing the second (and last) show of the Reanimation Tour 2003 on the German With Full Force festival?
It was a chance that we got the offer from With Full Force-organisers the same time we met Andy after his returning from living in Mexico and talking about the possibility for making one last show in Switzerland. With this offer we decided to do it definitively, two last shows ever. Another point is that we were one of the first death metal bands who played in the ending times of DDR/East Germany. And the With Full Force-promotor we know from the early 90`es, to these times he organised a show for messiah at Werdau, before he started with the big things like With Full Force…

Could you answer the same questions about this show for the festival gig too?
It was an unbelievable moment as we entered this huge stage. A year of rehearsing and waiting for that last moment was over and we knew. This is really the last show ever that we will play with Messiah. And as we saw that a lot of real Messiah-Maniacs were on the front and enjoyed with us together all the old songs – an unbelievable moment – and for me personally maybe the most important Messiah show ever. But the 47 minutes were like a short moment and as I remember now, it was like a dream for me. It was also a special project because I haven’t been on stage for nine years before these ‘Reanimation’-shows. I think this was a really respectful gift that our fans gave us – Thanks to you all again!

Were the past two shows a success for you?
Oh yes, it was the best success we could have, because we could playing very freely without fuckin’ stress-feelings like a band who just released a new album and has to push it etc. etc. It was a personal success cause people gave us the respect and were happy with the shows…

And there won’t be a new Reanimation tour?
No, the chapter is closed now – and it’s good that way!

It’s good that you not only re-released the first albums again, but also but some new merchandise on the market, since it was just utter rare. Can we expect more re-pressings in the future?
We liked to re-release a best of with the newer songs released with the albums under Noise (Record label – Felix). We had contact with Noise-records for trying re-release the newer albums before Reanimation shows, but Noise/Sanctuary wasn’t interested in doing it. So we have the problems with the rights… Merchandise: I think with the three motives it’s enough now, and there will be no new pressings because the market is over now for Messiah. So if someone wants a shirt – get it now as long as they are available. I think this merchandise could become rare in half year as well…

More about shirts, once I saw someone walking in an awesome “Extreme Cold Weather” shirt, is this a bootleg shirt?
I think so, the only “Extreme Cold Weather”-motive is very, very old. One from 1987 an the other from 1989…

Another question about shirts, what shirt does Patrick wear on the backside of the “Rotten Perish” album?
That’s the mentioned before first unofficial “Extreme Cold Weather”-shirt, only about 100 copies…

This brings me to some more detailed questions, could you please tell me about the Therion singer, what did he do in Messiah and how did he came to the band? Please tell the story.
After the split with Patrick 1993, Andy also left the band and we had to search a new singer. I must say that from this point, I felt that this could be the end for Messiah. It was not easy to find a new singer after the reunion 1989 after Tschösi, the original shouter. If I wouldn’t met Andy, we wouldn’t have been doing an interview now… :- )  And to find again a new shouter after Andy, with the pressure to release a new album under Noise, was not easy. We rehearsed with several singers from Switzerland without success, if I would’ve met the shouter of my nowadays solo-project “Mourningside”, he would’ve been the new singer… Ok, back to your question: I knew Christofer of Therion long time before from tape-trading and also the first Therion CDs, Therion played a support with us together on the Metal-Mania festival 1992 and I organised also a Therion-show here in my home-town Zug the same year. That’s why I knew him and someday I phoned to ask him to do a new Messiah-album with us. So we did it, but it was the end. I was burnt out, not really interested to discuss about all the changing in the band and the music-style, I resigned with the lyrics, tired of talking about the aspects of the ever same singed themes, not interested in Christofer’s Swedish-historic and mystic lyrics. It was just a fault and in the studio it was the pure horror with Christofer trying to find a hardcore-sounding way of singing, it just sounded very off-key and I think you can here this on “Underground”, the most destructive and worst release Messiah ever made… Don’t understand me wrong, I don’t want to blame Christofer – he tried to do something new, but it was my fault because I resigned and the way we did the last album was definitively not the “Messiah-way”, but like a strange bad other band…

Both of the last two shows are filmed, and will be released on a DVD right (which have to see the light at the end of the year)? Please tell us something about the further content.
First there are some problems with rights because we want to put a ton of bonuses: Messiah 1984-1994, including also some recordings of the legendary very early show with Celtic Frost at St.Gallen / Switzerland 1985. The final show with Killer in Belgium 1987. The Metal Mania festival Poland. Marlboro Rock-in 1991. Planned is also to put on a cut clip of the With Full Force X-stage version filmed by my wife and a very special: the ever last rehearsing in Zürich two days before the final With Full Force-show. The last Switzerland – “Abart-show” will be also released, and the With Full Force X show which is professionally filmed with 8 cameras…

I heard that the first ten orders of the DVD will be pleased with a genuine shirt from 1985, is this true? And how can it be you still have those?
It was an idea but from the last twenty shirts were left now one now cause we sent some for free to good friends an the rest is sold out to some maniacs in the scene… Tschösi gave the shirts, during the Reanimation-03-project I was in constant contact with him…

As the last question, what are your best memories on Messiah, and what are the worst?
I can remember the very early times as we began making our noise and as it started, we didn’t think about doing concerts and I personally had no idea how it could be when being on stage. First we made music just for us and as we get the first chance to do a concert. I was surprised about the reaction of the people, they gave me a new feeling and it started a time of which I still remember the best memories. The other side is how it can end, the split after “Underground”, the other face with a bad band-feeling, no more positive reactions on stage and this way in its direction is harder than when you became success after a “normal” start…

I’d like to thank you for giving me the honour and the opportunity to do this exclusive interview. Do you have any last words for your fans?
Yeas: I like to thank again the maniacs who were on our last shows, and you are exactly the reason why I personally decided to rehearse a 100-minute repertoire that I never played again since nine years. And you gave me the respect. And that was not a matter of course, cause there was not a very big promotion in the scene, without re-releases of the Noise-albums… And you came to the shows, and had that party with us after nine years of silence! You are real fans and that’s it what counts… thank you again – to give us a respectable final ending of the Messiah – era! Forever: be your own Messiah and enjoy yourself!

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Equinox – “I want to hear feeling, emotion, hatred, anger, and pain in a song, not just noise. That’s what the old style bands did”

When it comes to Death Metal, REAL Death Metal, played as it once was meant to be played, not many bands can be identified to incorporate that ancient feeling. Equinox is most surely one of them! I can still remember when I first heard their demo and EP stuff, making me bang like a madmen and making me very anxious to get their debut ‘Return from Mystery’. When I bought that album I almost shit my pants, it was even better than I could have hoped! And now, after so many years of silence, Equinox hit back damn hard with their 2nd killer album entitled ‘Journey into Oblivion’. I couldn’t help but spam guitarist Pete Slate with a lot of questions…

Hi Pete, how are you doing today? You must be feeling great now that Equinox’ 2nd album ‘Journey into Oblivion’ is finally released, right? How are the press/fan reactions on it so far?
Man, I’m so pleased that the album is finally out. I know it took a long time but it was worth the wait. Yes, I’m feeling really good these days. Equinox is back again running full steam ahead. It’s also a great feeling to be in touch with so many people all around the world who have always supported us. The reactions have been amazing. We’ve got excellent reviews in Kerrang, Terrorizer, Voices From the Darkside, Legacy, and many others. The fans are going crazy over ‘Journey…’. I’ve been getting so much email I can barely answer it all. As a musician I’ve very proud of this album and I’m finally feeling we are getting the attention we deserve. It’s been a long hard road for us but we are BACK!

Let’s go back in time a bit. After the release of ‘Return to mystery’ nothing seemed to happen. No touring, no new music being released, no news until earlier this year.
Apparently a lot of stuff happened to the band and its members, which led to the huge delay of releasing the new album.

Tell us what were the reasons for the delay in all those years?
First off, ‘Return to Mystery’ was released on Unisound Records. When that album came out we did get some exposure in the metal mags but we had no support after that. By this I mean we had no tours, no nothing. The fans were totally into ‘Return…’ and we did rather well but Unisound was just around to rip off its artists. Sure they wanted us to do a second album but we had to cover the costs. That when we just decided to look for another label. Now after ‘Return’ came out Julius from Still Dead Prod had contacted us. This label was very new at the time but he knew he wanted to sign us. I knew Julius was a true fan so we decided to sign with Still Dead. We recorded most of the album and then our drummer Steve Spillers got into serious trouble. He was sent to prison for about 10 years. This completely destroyed the band. I mean Steve and I are the ones who formed the band. But we were lucky because the drum tracks were already recorded. We finished the album but then Still Dead was having major issues. As I understand it taxes are a real pain in the ass in Poland. So he was dealing with a lot of personal and financial issues. During this time that Still Dead was working out their delays, Darkness and I really had time to sit back and listen to ‘Journey…’. We decided we hated the mix. So when Still Dead came back into the picture, we went back to Morrisound and remixed the whole album. It took about a week to remix the album and get that heavy Black/Death sound we were looking for. So basically we lost our drummer and our second guitar player Tony Blakk left the band during all this.

By the way, there is a large resemblance between Equinox and Immolation. Both bands released their 2nd album years after their debut album! Although Equinox beat Immolation with 2 years. Any intentionality in this or just coincidence?
Total coincidence. If I had it my way we would have released one album a year. Hopefully from now on we will be putting out our albums once a year. In Metal you have to do this. Keep fresh in the people’s minds. Metal bands come and go so we really have to get out there constantly to make a major impact.

You told me that Equinox has a new line-up with Gabe Lewandowski replacing Steven Spillers on drums, while also Tony Blakk isn’t in the band anymore. Why did they leave or were they replaced? Will you continue as a threesome or search for a new 2nd guitarist?
Well, Steve as I mentioned is in prison. It took forever to find a replacement. Just to find a drummer who’s into old style Metal is very hard in this area. Everyone nowadays wants to play nu-metal. It just does not fit our style. We did find Gabe. He used to play with Naphobia (FL) and Hellwitch (FL). He’s a incredible drummer. His style is very intense. We’ve written new material and honestly I can say it will be our best yet. He gives our new music a whole new feel. Tony leaving the band was a mutual decision. He was working so much that he was missing rehearsals and the music suffered. We both decided to go our own way. Currently we are looking for a second guitar player. We’ve tried a few people out and we are hoping to have a replacement by our first show Dec. 6th.

‘Journey into Oblivion’ is released by Still Dead Records. Is this a one album deal or have you signed to them for more albums? By the way, will you get more distribution channels, as for example, the album can only be ordered from Displeased Records in Europe?
We are doing a one album deal with an option for another. Yes the distribution is great this time around. It’s getting everywhere. I just wish we had major distribution here in the USA. I mean you can get it through like Century Media and others but I’d love to see it in the major store chains like Virgin, Best Buy, places that sell Metal here in the USA. So far I’m pleased because when I search the internet I can find ‘Journey…’ for sale in many places and different countries.

What are the plans for Equinox now? Will you start to do some touring to support the new album?
Right now we are planning out live shows  here in Florida. Our first show back was December 6th. It was a killer show. Fog, spikes and leather, a total metal show. The fans were great and were very pleased to see Equinox playing live again since 1997. We would love to tour, especially Europe. We’ve had some offers early for early next year but we have to make sure it’s worth it for us. I mean we’re not asking for the world, just our travel covered and some expenses. We are also currently working on new material for the next album. We’d like to be back into the studio by March or April of next year. We are also planning on having more merchandise available like shirts and there is our compilation CD in the works.

You also told me that you’re working on a compilation CD with contains all your demo, EP and cover material, which will also be released by Still Dead Records. Plus you’re working on new stuff! Will you release an album that contains both the old stuff and new stuff or will it be 2 separate releases?
This will actually be two separate releases. The compilation CD will just for the die-hard Equinox fans. It will be released in limited quantity. We want this to be special for the fans and for us. It will have a huge booklet with a history of the band, tons of old live photos and flyers of gigs, and even a couple of old live track of songs that we never recorded. We do plan on recording a new album early next year. We are hoping for March. We’ve got about half the new album finished and all I can say is that, it’s our best material to date. Gabe is such an incredible drummer and his style totally compliments the guitar parts I wrote. Don’t get me wrong it will still be in the old style vein but with an aggressive edge. I’m trying also to implement more classical parts into the music, especially my leads. Again, it’s still total Equinox but we are taking it to the next step. This next album in my opinion will really take Equinox to the next level.

You’ve been in the Metal scenes for ages it seems. How do you perceive the scene nowadays? Can you still find what you want to listen to in the huge stream of releases?
I think we are fortunate that Metal is still alive. Yeah, it’s not like it was in the late 1980’s but nothing stays the same. I think there are some excellent bands out there. Now, since I’ve been listening to Metal for so long, I’m more selective on what I buy. So much music has been rehashed over and over again I can’t really listen to certain bands anymore. I go for bands that have hooks, or convey a certain feeling in the music. Like I’m really into The Chasm’s latest album. Scepter is a killer band and I do like the new Dimmu Borgir’s album. I did buy the latest Morbid Angel CD because I’ve always been a huge fan of Morbid but the ‘Heretic’ album did nothing for me. I know Trey experimented with a lot of new recording techniques and sounds and he’s really into that. I respect him for that but personally I just didn’t get into the music. Of course I still love the old bands, Obituary, Nocturnus, Mayhem, Celtic Frost, Manowar.

What drives you on, to continue making music? Is music a (healthy) addiction for you? What is it that makes one persevering in their conviction of making music?
I think music is the one thing in my life that will always be with me until my final days. Music has got me through the hard times. It’s my passion for music that keeps me going. I love all types from Metal to Classical. I also listen to Jazz, Ambient, 70’s Rock, New Age instrumental and so on. I feel in my heart, even at this point in my life, I need to keep pushing Equinox until we have run out of ideas or the interest has died. It’s been 10 years for the band and I still want that fire to keep going. I also want to experiment with other types of music in the future. I’d love to do some ambient guitar/synth stuff. The types of music that bring real emotions out of people. The classical artists did back in their day like Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Wagner. I not saying I want to play classical but I want to try to capture the sounds that you can listen to over and over again without getting tired of it.

The Internet is a development that had an explosive growth throughout the years. I remember some underground complaining about the Internet not being underground and that it would kill the feeling and charm of tape trading, writing letters and reading printed magazines. Though I can understand that these old ways of communicating have a certain value and familiar feeling, I think one must use new developments to its fullest use without losing the original intent of it all. Would you agree?
Yes, I agree. Maybe at first I was a little hesitant of the internet but now it’s a part of my everyday life. I love the fact that I can get almost any CD or do research on any type of band or music that I want. Before everything was so time consuming. With the birth of CD’s I noticed a big decline in tape trading years ago. I think this was just going to happen anyway. Yes, it sucks but it’s progression. I think it’s cool that old demos are now being repressed on CD with better quality sound and artwork. I find a lot of this on the internet. I believe if you took this away from the people who complain about it, they would have a very hard time with old way of sending things in the mail and waiting for long periods for mags and interviews to come out.

Obviously, Equinox has no trouble with the Internet as you’re working on a new website (www.equinoxmetal.com) which will hopefully reach more and more Metal fans. What stuff will be featured on it? Perhaps you could add some live or rehearsal sound clips in the future, that would be cool!
Yes we have some sound clips. We now have new photos on there and soon we will have new live photos. We have a forum for people to chat about Equinox, metal shows, or whatever interests they have. We really want to keep it updated and keep it fresh so the fans can keep coming back for all the latest info. We will also be selling new merchandise on there soon. It will definitely have any info on Equinox that a person would want to know. We also have links to other sites of our interest. It’s true to the Black/Death form.

If you were given the opportunity to tour with whatever band (dead or alive) in whatever place you want, with what bands would you play and where?
Now this is a tough question. I’d love to play with a band that has been around for a long time like Morbid Angel, Immortal (if they got back together), Usurper, Absu, Sadistic Intent, Mayhem. Honestly, we’d play with about anyone in our musical style just to get out there and get our music to people that have never heard of Equinox. Anywhere in Europe is where I’d like to do these shows…Don’t get me wrong I want to play around the US but I’ve had a desire to play in Europe. Countries like Germany, Poland, Holland, Austria, Czech Republic I feel that’s where we are the most accepted. The people are great, the women are beautiful, and beer is fucking awesome. I have to make this happen!

It seems that each decade a sub genre pops up its head and stirs the music scene quite a bit. In the late 1980-ties and early 1990-ties there was grunge. This genre got mixed reactions from the metal scene.
From 1994 on a new genre popped up, the nu metal genre. Again, a lot of mixed reactions on this style. Do you follow these developments and what’s your opinion on them?
You’re right…I remember what it was like when grunge was popular. I hated that style of music, and I think it killed a lot of different styles of Metal. Not Black or Death Metal but those hard rock and hair bands of the 80’s. As far as nu metal, I think it could be a lot worse. Again at least it’s not grunge rock. I notice that a lot of nu metal fans are crossing over to the heavier, faster, and darker music and that’s a great thing. Even though I’m not a huge fan of nu metal I do listen to all types of music and bands. To be a true musician you have to be open to new ideas but that doesn’t mean I have to listen to these new bands that I don’t enjoy. I don’t listen to nu metal but if fans of that type of music come to our shows and are getting into our style of music then I’m cool with that.

A release that has recently stirred and split the Metal scene is the new album of Metallica. Have you heard it, if so, what’s your opinion on it?
I actually hate the new Metallica. I’ve been into Metallica since I was in high school and I bought ‘Ride the lightning’. I thought that was the coolest music of that time. Fast riffing, cutting solos and great vocals. But sadly those days are gone. I actually got out of Metallica after the Black Album. I have no problem if a band wants to expand its sound and try something new but Metallica’s new material is total shit. I hate the production and they’ve totally abandoned their thrash roots.

Metallica has also made a name in suing various corporations as well as people who download music. What’s your opinion on the whole downloading and burning of music debate? Isn’t this just a new form of tape trading and won’t the fans buy the album anyway if they like the music?
That’s exactly what I think. If I like what I hear, I’ll go out and buy the CD. With the CD you get the cool artwork, lyrics, and I’ll support the band. So I do think it’s similar to tape trading but it has got out of hand. I can see where bands get frustrated when they have an album to sell but fans get cheap and just download the music. I’m torn between the two because I know I like to download music. hehehe

If you were banned to a desert island and were allowed to take 10 albums with you, which ones would these be?
Damn man, this is a hard one. OK: 1. Celtic Frosts ‘To Mega Therion’, 2. Obituary’s ‘Slowly We Rot’ 3. Mayhem ‘De Mysterious Dom Sathanas’ 4. Immortal ‘Sons of Northern Darkness’ 5. Black Sabbath ‘Sabbath Bloody Sabbath’, 6. Uriah Heep’s ‘Return to Fantasy’ 7. Rush’s ‘All the World’s a Stage’ 8. Black Oak Arkansas ‘Ain’t Life Grand. 9. Klause Schulze’s ‘Timewind’ and 10. Genesis’s ‘Selling England By the Pound’. You see if I was going to be on an island for a long time, I would have to have a diverse music collection.

Throughout the years, Death Metal has changed quite a bit. I can remember a discussion between old style bands like Autopsy and Incantations who made critical remarks about the style of then new bands like Cannibal Corpse and Suffocation. The critique was that those bands mostly focussed on blasting instead of writing a good song. Do you remember this as well?
It’s kind of ironic that nowadays many Death Metal bands sound a lot like Suffocation or Cannibal Corpse, while the ‘old style’ isn’t being played by that many bands anymore, or so it seems.
What are your viewpoints on this?
I agree with this fact. The true old style bands are breaking up and the newer bands seem to copy modern Black Metal or the Cannibal Corpse type of bands. I feel it’s hard to find a band that has that true old style. Some have pulled it off like Usurper, Absu, Scepter, Sadistic Intent and others. In a way it’s kind of a good thing because that way we appreciate it more when a band stays true to the old style and has that classic sound. I know that Equinox will always stay true to the old style music we believe in.

A related question is the fact that Death Metal has become a lot more technical. Bands like Morbid Angel, Cryptopsy, Dying Fetus, Nile or Hate Eternal have really pushed the envelope in musicality and technicality. Do you also listen to this newer forms of Death Metal or does it just doesn’t give you the same itch as the more old style bands do?
Don’t get me wrong I love technical bands. I was a huge fan of Watchtower, Nocturnus, Cynic, and Atheist but you have to be creative when writing music. I hate it when a technical bands just blasts all the way through the album. What the hell is the point to all that. I want to hear feeling, emotion, hatred, anger, and pain in a song, not just noise. That’s what the old style bands did. They may have had simple songs but damn they were good catchy songs. Just listen to Death’s ‘Scream Bloody Gore’ and Massacre’s ‘From Beyond’. Perfect examples.

Something that I encounter regularly is the fact that many new albums do sound more than good but they don’t give me the same feeling or impression as those bands I grew up with. Probably I’m just spoiled but I really have to look harder to find new releases that manage to impress me. Does this sound familiar or am I loosing my mind?
This is all too familiar. My feelings exactly. When I buy a CD I want to feel those feelings of excitement of listening to something new not just the same of style of music rehashed over and over again.

During the last few years, another trend has popped up: bands reuniting everywhere! From old thrash acts like Nuclear Assault to Death Metal acts like Brutality and Suffocation? Do we really need these reunions or are these bands better left dead?
Well, I don’t mind these reunions. It brings back some glory from the old days. It will never be like it was but at least the bands still support the scene and are staying true to what they believe in.

Also many old metal bands are reforming in their old classic line-up: Slayer with Lombardo, Maiden with Bruce and most recently, Rob Halford with Judas Priest. Sure it’s cool that one gets the chance to see these bands in their most classic line-up! However, do these bands still have something new to offer? I mean, they mostly play old stuff at their gigs and only a few newer songs. What’s the point in releasing new albums if you don’t promote them properly at your shows??
Yeah, I would love Slayer to put out an album of new tracks that are comparable to ‘Reign in Blood’. Their latest album is good and the Tour was very cool . I saw them here in FL and they still kick ass. I guess many of these bands just don’t want to hang it up. Hopefully I’ll be jamming metal when I’m older.

I’d also be interesting in to what music you guys listen to besides metal? Perhaps you’re really into Eminem or Kylie Minogue??
-What the Hell dude, are you on drugs? (Saldiac : haha, just wanted to get you going) I hate Eminem. I listen to many styles of music, Classical, Jazz, Hard Rock, Ambient and progressive, You would have a fit if you saw my CD collection. But like I said before, I need to have other musical interests, otherwise music would get so boring. Many of my favourite bands and musicians are from Rock bands of the 70’s, Richie Blackmore, Ace Frehley, Steve Hackett, and others.

You’ve been in the music scene for years, at what point will you call it a day? Or are you planning to become to be the Rolling Stones of the Death Metal genre? And do you have any plans on what you will do when Equinox has been buried (hopefully not soon!)?
No, when we are done we will be done. I feel this is our last big attempt at making a name for ourselves in the underground. We’ve been around for 10 years man and it’s been hard. Now we have families, professional jobs but we keep doing this for the love of the music. We’ll take this as far as we can man and hopefully it will be a successful ride!

Your final words (for now that is)….
I just wanted to say thanks Ron for the interview and all should support VM. We have new shirts now so visit our website http://www.equinoxmetal.com/ to order or just to find out the latest happenings of Equinox. Stay true to all classic forms of metal…

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Nocturnal – “Death ’til Thrash!”

A new Germanic thrash formation released their debut MCD late this year. NOCTURNAL do have some astonishing aggressive metal for this era. This was the reason to ask some questions to them concerning line-up and their blunt “Thrash With The Devil”.

 

Greetings NOCTURNAL! How are things in life this time for you guys? Whom are the new recruits on guitar and bass which were spotted on your ‘old’ webpage? Although the line-up consists of a classic three-piece on “Thrash With The Devil”, why did you expand the band in the first place and why the short appearance of your guitar player called Jex?
At the moment we are rehearsing new songs for our debut album which we plan to record middle of next year. We were only a short time doing NOCTURNAL as a 3 piece, we only recorded “Thrash with the devil” with that Line-Up. We expanded the band to be able to play Live which was not possible without at least a bassguitar. Jex and Vomitor came into the band in the beginning of 2002. So Jex was not that short playing in NOCTURNAL. We parted ways with her as we had problems in working together and we thought it is the best for us all. She will not be replaced, we will play with only one guitar from now on and I will record both guitar lines in the studio myself.

You mentioned in a reply to me that almost everyone labels NOCTURNAL’ music as black/thrash metal. How do you think this statement comes to terms even though you never intended to sound black? Why are the vocals so fucked up recorded on “Thrash With The Devil”? I mean, the guitars and drums are nicely raw produced, but the propaganda calls are too much distorted.
I think the problem is in listeners head, nowadays there are no pure Thrash bands anymore. Every band which claims to play Thrash, all have at least a black metal voice or mix Thrash with Blastbeats. We don’t want to create a dark or black atmosphere, we want to do ripping and headbanging songs. I think “Thrash with the devil” only sounds a bit Black because of the production and the vocals. We don’t want that and we try to sound as old school Thrash as possible on our next releases. Maybe it is because we listen to a lot of Black metal too that it influenced our sound.

The guitar solo part in ‘Welcome To Your Death’ should be viewed as an expression of total fear and despair of a victim, which looks into the merciless face of its killer! You probably wrote this in the booklet of your previous MCD to avoid confrontation with the false solo. Yes ladies and gentlemen, I assure you this is false (see review)! Why record such an error on your debut and hide it with this statement?
Ha ha, well the whole story is quite simple. I can’t play guitar solos, this is no secret. Hellbastard and Mayhem still wanted me to record a solo for that song, and this is what they got, he he. This sentence was done to say somehow “We know the solo is shit, no reason to tell us” he he ! But I would not say it ruined the song, when you heard it a hundred times you can’t imagine the song without it, it gives the whole thing a certain touch of uniqueness.

NOCTURNAL mentioned it will record a full-length album somewhere next year. What can we expect in the black/thrash genre and could you be a bit more precise concerning the release date. How did the Metal Meeting go at Ludwigshafen Colloseum? Are there more gigs planned in Europe this and next year?
No Black, only Thrashing Rage! We plan to record it in middle of ´04. I don’t know who will release the album then, I plan to do it myself through DEATHSTRIKE RECORDS. But it is also a money question. Metal Meeting went fine, we played along with only gay bands but this event is a quite big one (over 600 people) in our area and the Warriors of Steel who organize it did a great job. Only the sound sucked and we had some minor technical problems, all in all a good but not our best show. It was the first gig without Jex by the way. Until now only a show on the 20.February is planned in Frankenthal/Germany. We keep gigs rare at the moment to concentrate on songwriting.

Last words to the fucking world!
A split 7´EP with NUNSLAUGHTER is recorded and will be released hopefully soon. Label is not sure yet. Death ´til Thrash!!!

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Luciferion – “And through the years I really lost the hope that there are still dedicated people who do it because of pure passion and not for the money…”

When Swedish Luciferion announced a new album I was feeling quite euphoric! Their debut album “Demonication” still finds its way into my CD player regularly. My high hopes for “The Apostate” were more than fulfilled as the new songs featured on this album showcase a band progressed and evolved into a musical entity of even larger proportions! Put in plain words, an ass kicking experience…
Two killer albums, released in 9 years of time, reason enough to do an interview. And although I had a lot to ask (as usual…), Wojtek Lisicki was kind enough to elaborate on all of my weird mind fabrications.

First of all, congratulations with the excellent new album entitled “The Apostate”. How are the press and fan reactions so far?
Thanx a lot! I don’t know anything about the fans’ opinion, as people from this genre aren’t too communicative and apparently have it difficult to share emotions, so I can’t answer that yet. Also, our e-mail address is in the booklet and far too many people burn their CDs… When it comes to the press the 90% of the reviews has been really good, which can be seen on our site in the Review section. There were two magazines which reviewers must have directly changed their heads with ass, as they were saying things like total fucking idiots. It was though more laugh generating that pissing off.

When reading the reviews, I occasionally see comparisons being made between Luciferion and Emperor. Obviously, you don’t try to sound like any other band, but do reviewers also have associations with other bands (besides Emperor) when hearing the new Luciferion stuff?
Of course, Morbid Angel – always – and Deicide most often. Sometimes also Dimmu Borgir and Cradle Of Fifth. These two are comparisons that have no ground more than that these bands also use keyboards and do it in a dark way. You know, humans work in a specific way, they must associate, it wouldn’t be possible to resist that. Finding comparisons is a kind of proof of their observing skills, and everybody has needs to expose his capacity. In Luciferion’s case there is no direct inspiration from other bands from this decade. If I were forced to mention any influence at all regarding this matter I would mention Coroner and maybe some more from that period. Nothing else. Otherwise, Emperor was the one who maybe catalyzed the inspiration to use keyboards more extensively and constantly.

A comment you probably hear all the time is that there are only 5 new songs on the album. Considering the fact that the new stuff is based as a concept story on the movie “The dark city”, one could wonder whether it wasn’t possible to write a longer concept album. So, why only 5 songs?
The original idea was to release the promo-demo material from 94 together with the Celtic Frost cover as a collector’s item for the die hard fans. Eventually we decided to include new songs, as releasing only the old material would be more disappointing for the people than of interest. Also, the will to create new songs was great deep inside. We didn’t do more than those four new songs because there was no time (everybody was busy with the full time bands) and because there was no other old sounding material (parts) remaining that could fit to this release and creating it artificially wouldn’t be the same thing.

You included only one cover song on “The Apostate” but you’ve done more covers throughout the years. Why aren’t these songs featured on the album?
Because we want to release an album containing only the covers we have done. We will need one more for that though.

In the thanks-list of “Demonication” quite a lot movies were mentioned as sources of inspiration. You’ve used a sample from “The Exorcist III” on that album, so it’s no surprise that “The Dark City” is used on the new album. What made you decide to use this movie, perhaps the subject it is dealing with or the dark atmosphere it constantly radiates?
Well, that too of course! But the biggest reason is the message of the movie. We choose “Dark City” as that movie represents some values in direct connection to “The Apostate”’s lyrical content. In a way the samples play a separate, own role on the album, as the aspects they reflect are not touched upon in my lyrics (a meant move), still they are directly connected to the subjects that the lyrics describe. Those samples play a significant role in “The Apostate”’s wholeness. The whole new recorded material is amalgamated by them, content wise and spiritually. They also make the album more mystical, dark and illustrative.

What kind of movies do impress or inspire you and which ones would you like to use in the future for integration or translation to Luciferion’s music?
I couldn’t possibly answer that now. The choice will be probably made on the same criteria as with this album. I don’t think there is any special kind of movies that I especially prefer. I have an great spectra of interests.

The new album was released on Listenable Records again. Did you still have a deal with them? If so, for how many albums is the deal with Listenable?
No, we weren’t bound to any contract. We simply didn’t look for any other labels. Listenable was an obvious choice, as we know each other since long time and because the work environment is very easy. It’s something we appreciate very much working day and night in already extremely stressing atmosphere. I have nothing to say about other aspects of the cooperation, we have to wait a little bit more to have an opinion.

How do you write songs? When is a tune a real Luciferion song? Are all band members involved in the writing process?
No, not anymore. I do the whole material, including all the instruments and lyrics. I can’t describe the writing process, as it would take too much time. I can tell You though that my way of working is quite different from the most of other people’s. I actually don’t have any solid procedure, just some typical for me steps, methods and manoeuvres combined with many spontaneous patents and troubleshooting of different kind. This is the best thing with not working under a press – You have no frames and limitations. A Luciferion song, as well as all the songs created by me, are not finished until they don’t cause “disturbance in the force” while listening to material several times.

You probably consider musical progression a necessary requirement, but how complex or technical can one get with this type of music (without losing the listener’s attention)?
I actually don’t see the progress always as a necessity. It depends. If Morbid Angel would decide to do a “Blessed Are The Sick II” I would see it as the greatest idea they had after “Domination”. By this I mean that if somebody discover something great – in this case a perfect form of the style – there is no need to change that only to make progress to every price. It’s much better to continue discovering of new territories within the same area of something that is already great. There is so much to be found. (…) As for complexity and technicality, it actually depends. I don’t think there is or should be any limitation of complexity, neither any necessity to consider music less good only because it’s simple. Of course not to misinterpret “simple” as “primitive”, which is a different thing… (laughs) Personally I actually consider simple and at the same time qualitative and catchy music being much harder to achieve. Being compressed to an absolute essence. In a way I even prefer it before the complicated music. In this case the expression “less is more” is really true.

After the release of “Demonication” it seems that nothing happened. No touring, no new music being released, no news whatsoever. Tell us what happened in all those years. What made you decide to give it another try with Luciferion?

After putting the band on ice in 1996 I locked myself in and moving in other dimensions of reality I started creating the material for the next album. I did it until 1998. Also in 1998 me and Martin recreated Highlander that later became Lost Horizon, Michael joined Dark Tranquillity and Hans several other bands. Peter, the ex drummer continued to play with some minor local bands because of lack of interest in playing on a bigger scale. Johan got a job as a producer of pop music in Scotland. I wouldn’t call the recording of “The Apostate” “another try”, as if we would like to do a concrete comeback we would just have done it whenever we wanted and pretty soon be back in business on an adequate level. We decided to do another album because me and Michael felt such need deep inside. The idea of recording new songs on the album came up after the initial plans of realising a mini CD that should contain only the promo-cover material and the Celtic Frost cover.

In a recent interview I read that you have a whole new Luciferion album on your PC, but that it’s too complex to play for the musicians. Is this true??? Couldn’t some progressive metal/rock musicians play it?
Yes, this is the material I mentioned in the previous question. Well, I didn’t say that it’s impossible to be played – a really good all-round death/blast drummer (drums are the absolute biggest problem) could of course manage that – but it would demand an extreme commitment. And through the years I really lost the hope that there are still dedicated people who do it because of pure passion and not for the money, which in fact don’t even exist in this genre – at least not on this low career level, and also at least not before the album is selling good.

I heard that you left Lost Horizon. Did your own musical ideas or goals differ too much from those of the other band members? Will you fully focus on Luciferion now? Now that the album is released, are there any touring plans (tours or festival gigs)?
Well, no, not really. I will do whatever I can to promote the album, but I don’t think there will be any live gigs, as this is not a live line up. We only summoned to record “The Apostate” You see, to reflect the original atmosphere of the Luciferion people remember. I left Lost Horizon because I couldn’t stand the members in general and the company that through the years did all to destroy the band, something that they have succeed pretty well with, and that depending also on lack of values within the band needed to stand the adversities.

To what extent can we call Luciferion an actual band? I mean, most of the other members are involved in other bands. For example, Michael Nicklasson is also in Dark Tranquillity and drummer Hans Nilsson plays in a zillion bands. Is Luciferion more of a one-man band or project in which the other guys help out when needed?
Before Luciferion was a normal band where everybody were participating the usual way, but nowadays You could actually say that it’s a one man band with the original members taking part of this when it’s time to record an album. Luciferion is of course a band and not just a project. Doesn’t matter we are not active live.

Recently, Luciferion has got a website (www.luciferion.com) so this means you think the Internet is an interesting and useful medium type, right? Will you add some more stuff on the site like for example some music clips of rehearsals or new songs?
We actually count our selves lucky having that perfect address for the band, which is http://www.luciferion.com/, as it was already taken (of course) when the idea came up. The owner of it, Wielfried, had that exemplary manner and it’s not just that he actually released the domain name to us, he also offered the web hostel for free and built up the message board on our site. All that because of respect and estimation for the band, but in the first place because of being a person with character. (…) The internet is one of the best things ever found in the history of the human kind. It will probably be one of the reasons of its fall, but in this phase it’s a wonderful thing. Why should we add clips from rehearsals? It’s a horrible thing to maltreat one’s ears with! The only unreleased thing that actually exists is a lot of camera recordings from the gigs. In the matter of fact is that most gigs were recorded, which I, like usually, love my self for that I seen to be done back then with my camera that I once bought for that purpose. If there will suddenly come up such thing on our site as a video clip(s) You can consider Yourself being the one who re-initiated the thought. (laughs)

On the site it’s said that you also have another band called Blast 2000. Does this band name have a meaning or was the band/project started in 2000? Has any music been recorded or released so far?

It was supposed to be a band, but it never became a reality. We started it together with Varyen (drummer from ex. Damnation, now in Forest Of Impaled). There were great plans and philosophical ideologies behind this, but he moved to USA and I dedicated myself entirely to Lost Horizon. The name was actually temporary, but pretty close to what we wanted it to represent. We came up with that name in 1998. As we both were total nihilists back then and the date 2000 represented in some prophecies an mythologies the ending of the final count down to the annihilation of the world that we hoped would come together with the stroke of the clock closing this Millennium… What do You say about that?

If you were banned to a desert island and were allowed to take 10 albums with you, which ones would these be?

It wouldn’t be metal albums, that’s for sure. I would take things like ambient music, healing music, “tribal” music, ritual music, electronic modulated sounds and this kind of stuff. All that to create atmosphere and bring forth magic needed to attain the direct contact with the pure nature around and again feel the real taste of life. Actually, this is one of my secret dreams, that’s why I in a way love “Cast Away” with Tom Hanks.

What’s your opinion on the whole downloading and burning of music debate? Isn’t this just a new form of tape trading and that the fans will buy the album anyway if they like it? Did you know that recent research showed that people who download music buy more CD’s than people who do not download music?

I didn’t know that, but I am not surprised at all! It’s simply because downloading helps one to hear things that maybe would never ever be discovered by one under other circumstances. Most people don’t visit the music stores just to reconnoitre the present music market and to dig in the CD heaps. The most people actually buy albums after having heard the songs elsewhere first, and internet is just perfect for that purpose. I can’t say that I am buying the albums just because I have first downloaded them from the net and now I feel guilty and must buy the original, I simply buy things I really like or respect and I also want the real thing and not some miserable burned CDr with impaired sound quality by different compressions and slimming.

The extreme music scene seems flooded with releases. Though the overall quality of the albums (in terms of production, musicians’ skills) has increased over the years, it seems that not many bands dare to really try out new things. According to you, what bands out there really push the musical boundaries?

I can’t actually say which bands I consider being that innovative, as I haven’t laid any direct focus on that subject lately. Otherwise, I think it’s simply that people want to play the music they are used to, like and are able to control, as all changes are always like wandering in a “strange land” and everybody wants to have the security, also in playing music.

To what music do the band members listen to? Is it mainly metal or also other music like e.g. jazz or classical music? Or perhaps you really dig Christina Aguilera?
No, personally I don’t, or lets say I don’t know her music. We all listen to many different music styles. Metal is only one of those even if it’s closest to our selves.

A trend in the metal scene is the nu metal genre, which has been getting a lot of mixed reactions. Do you listen to this genre or do you think it has nothing interesting to offer?
I actually don’t even know exactly what is the specification of this genre, so I apparently don’t listen to it. Although, there are some songs on the movie soundtracks from for example “Matrix Reloaded” and “Queen Of The Damned” that are really great, so I can’t say that it’s all just shit, but I still hate all that white-negro attitude this kind of bands have.

An album that has stirred the metal scene quite a bit, is the new Metallica album. Have you heard it, and if so, what’s your opinion on it?
I have only heard what has been broadcasted. I think it sucks enormously, especially the sound. That try of being dirty sounding and having the modern nu-image is just an unsuccessful attempt as the result sucks. I am not conservative, but this is miserable.

If you could tour with whatever band (RIP or alive) you wanted to, and could go wherever you wanted to go to, with what bands would you tour and where?
Doesn’t matter where. It could be everywhere where is passion within the audience. I actually don’t have any special wishes regarding the bands. My way of valuing and the needs are different now. It’s hard to answer this, as I haven’t been around for a while and don’t have this kind of day dreams awake. Probably all my favourite bands would be on that list.

What albums (no matter what music style) that were released in the last 12 months have really impressed you?
I almost don’t listen to music, as I am totally busy with my own artistry. I simply have no time neither anybody that could recommend good music to me. So I am not updated. Sorry. Otherwise, I really appreciate “Matrix Reloaded” soundtrack and the “Queen Of The Damned” soundtrack.

Thanks for doing this interview, if I left something out or if you have something to say to the readers, please state it here…
Thanx Ron for an interesting interview (at last one!) that catalyzed me to go deeper with some of the subjects at the same time being kind of excited while doing it. I have suffered the answering of all that standard shit so far, that the most of the interviews are about. On the other hand this interview contents an FAR TOO EXAGGERATED!!! amount of questions… >:| which I should send back to You unanswered(!), but I actually enjoyed them and did an exception. Also thanx for spreading the apostate words of Luciferion!